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to think people should respect my choice of name?

332 replies

DuchessofPsmith · 11/06/2011 23:22

I'm a regular MNer, but am writing under an assumed name (and using more fake names) for what's about to be obvious reasons.

DP is in fact DH. We'd had a non-legal shindig a year after we met, and told everybody that's that. And part of that was because during my previous marriage I was driven nuts by a few assholes misguided friends who'd refused to accept I hadn't changed my name: that it was still "Ms Psmith" not "Mrs Ahmed", so I really wanted to avoid giving anbody a reason to get it wrong again.

DP and I thought a bit later that it might be both pleasing to his mum, and protecting for me if anything should happen to him, to do the legal thing, so we secretly married, inviting only our mutual best friend and DH's mum as witness. We made it clear to both of them that this was to be kept secret, and that my name would remain "Ms Psmith".

Within days, the old bat made me regret inviting her, making jokes about total strangers asking "which Mrs Jones?" (as if they'd know). And within a few months DP/H and I were getting [holiday] cards from her relatives addressed to "Mr and Mrs Jones".

A few years went by. DP/H in the meantime heard from his sister that MIL had blabbed to her as well, but it wasn't officially General Knowledge. DP/H of course explained why this was, and all the stuff you read above, i.e. to respect my name.

We got invited to a wedding in her neck of the family; I sent hand-written acceptances using our two names. So, I was a but surprised to see my dinner placecard written as not "Jane Psmith" but "Jane Jones".

We didn't let it ruin our evening (although the general white-trashiness of the event was worthy of a whole 'nother thread). We stayed through dinner but left before the disco (my being 8 months pregnant proved useful for escape). On our way out, during the goodbye and pleasantries with SIL, I handed her my placecard and said "I am certain I spelled my name correctly on my acceptance - could you please in due course pass on my disappointment to whomever was responsible for this that they chose not to respect my wishes."

DP/H's next phone call with his mother started with her launching right into "If you're ringing to apologise, you're too late and it won't be sufficient" because apparently I "went ballistic" and "ruined the bride's big day" (we'd said nothing about it to her - indeed, I made sure to tell SIL we weren't going to bother B&G with this!).

We have since had no apology either from MIL or SIL. The only thing SIL had to offer - and this is where you MNers come in! - is "well, since I know you're married, I assumed your name was changed".

AFTER THAT ENTIRE CONVERSATION HE'D HAD WITH HER?!? AFTER MY ACCEPTANCE NOTE IN MY NAME?!? AAARRRGGGHHH!

Moreover, I am now bothered by the thought that if what SIL perceives to be my "married name" (I am gagging even typing this) was used, does that mean she spread the secret further? How many people now know?

I actually felt compelled to look up the legality of it, and confirmed what I'd thought I'd known: that name change is voluntary and through usage - though marriage is one of the reasons one might do it, it is not automatic. There is no legal "name change fairy".

So I know leagally where I stand, but what's general consensus? Looking forward to your thoughts.

OP posts:
drdreamboat · 12/06/2011 14:14

I'm sure if she replaced white trashy with any number of descriptions about other races, the post would have been reported and deleted.

DontGoCurly · 12/06/2011 14:14

The wine at the meal is paid for and the first round of drinks for the toast is paid for but everything else people buy themselves. Totally normal.

Hullygully · 12/06/2011 14:14

And I couldn't give a shit if they did, but I would need warning beforehand because like most of us these days I carry cards and about £2.50 in cash.

DontGoCurly · 12/06/2011 14:15

Only a cheapskate would turn up to a wedding with an empty purse where I'm from.

Hullygully · 12/06/2011 14:17

Regionalist

LadyBeagleEyes · 12/06/2011 14:17

The last weddings I went to had free champagne and wine but a pay yourself bar

handsomeharry · 12/06/2011 14:17

I agree dontgocurly. Thats what I have experienced at all the weddings I've attended too. A drink or two when you arrive, usually champagne/bucks fizz, wine during the meal and champagne for the toasts. After that you pay for your own drinks. I thought that was fairly normal too.

DontGoCurly · 12/06/2011 14:18

Wink Splitter! Dissenter, anyway what were we banging on about?

FoofffyShmoofffer · 12/06/2011 14:18

So a cash bar is worthy of the label white trash?

Blimey, that puts my lovely wedding in it's place.

Re: losing your identity. So really, your surname is your identity? The be all and end all of your identity? Genuine question.

DoMeDon · 12/06/2011 14:18

YANBU to want to keep your name. YABU to get knickers in a twist. people respect what they want - can't change others. Annoying, yes, disaster, no.

Shouldn't have mentioned it at the wedding - no matter who to. should have addressed it directly with MIL who is the 'stirrer' behind it all.

Hullygully · 12/06/2011 14:19

Well it's becoming apparent that we all have different "normals." You can't slag the OP off because hers is different to yours.

Hullygully · 12/06/2011 14:19

So a cash bar is worthy of the label white trash?

Don't be silly

xstitch · 12/06/2011 14:20

I have never been to a wedding where there hasn't been a cash bar. Never had more than initial drink and toast. Perhaps I am just trash though.

MirandaGoshawk · 12/06/2011 14:20

When I was younger I spent an awful lot of time & energy insisting on being called Ms Maidenname rather than Mrs DHname. I got VERY het up & feminist over it. But now, 18 years down the line, I let it go.

It only matters to you, no-one else is even mildly interested. You tell people your name, they get it wrong. So you tell them again, but mildly. They will eventually accept it. But really, for your sanity, it's just not worth making a fuss over.

Hullygully · 12/06/2011 14:22

cba with any more foaming.

You all decide you're trash for cash if you want to and have a lovely foam over it.

FoofffyShmoofffer · 12/06/2011 14:22

Silly? Smile

The OP labelled the wedding " white trash " then mentioned a cash bar as an example of this.

PatriciatheStripper · 12/06/2011 14:22

I wonder what the rejected surname is? Could it be Pratt? Bottom? Smellie? Balls? Kuntz? Hoare? .....

I bet if OP's maiden name had been something like that, she would have been delighted to accept the husband's name.

handsomeharry · 12/06/2011 14:23

The OP explained her 'white trash' comment about the wedding - she posted a number of complaints about the whole day, one of which was the lack of free bar.

rooks14 · 12/06/2011 14:25

Wow how self-centred are you? he whole MIL thing is a different issue and you should never have said anything when you were AT the wedding!

If someone said something at my wedding about being called the wrong name then I would not be happy! It's really pathetic you did that, and you're the one that needs to apologise!!!! Sorry

xstitch · 12/06/2011 14:26

I am not foaming hully just commenting on the weddings I have been to. I know I am trash I am the shit on everybody's shoe. Nobody can truthfully accuse me of being above my station. If you had paid attention to the I and most others said the OP was being entirely reasonable in keeping her own name.

Ihavewelliesbuttheyrenotgreen · 12/06/2011 14:26

The Queen never took Prince Philip's name did she and neither did their children and despite their many peculiarities they don't seem quite as bonkers as this whole palava.

handsomeharry · 12/06/2011 14:27

I dont think people commenting on their own experiences at weddings is 'foaming'. Confused

What an odd thing to say.

xstitch · 12/06/2011 14:29

All I can say is thankfully the OP and hully aren't coming to my wedding as quite frankly they will be disgusted. Even worse shitty scum that I am, I have decided I want to change my name.

TheSnickeringFox · 12/06/2011 14:29

This thread is a ripping success.

OP your 'voice' sounds very familiar. If you are who I think you are then YANBU as you are a very decent sort. Also, if so you would have had a lot less flak if you'd posted under a name with a bit of context. I agree that feminism would have been a better choice of venue.

lettinggo · 12/06/2011 14:38

This has to be a wind up surely?

I also kept my name when I married much to my ILs horror. My MIL still insists on addressing Christmas cards etc to Mr and Mrs DH'sName. The first year we were married, I said it to her in case she genuinely didn't know but she persisted. And it annoyed me. But I figured she was trying to annoy me (lots of other stuff going on) so I ever ever mentioned it again. Her calling me by a name does not make it mine. 14 years later and there was a breakthrough this year. My birthday card, usually addressed to Mrs DH's First-and-surname, was addressed to Ms Lettinggo. I don't know why at long last she's decided to address me by my name. And again, I thanked her for the card and didn't mention the name.

YANBU to be annoyed about the name thing, it IS annoying when other people insist on changing your name for you.

But OMG you are so so U to comment on it on someone else's wedding day. That was just rude and self-centred of you.

And you're just a freaking oddball to not tell people you are married just because you're so determined that noone should call you by your DH's name.

PS My DH has an unusual surname so when we are booking anything over the phone, he always uses my name. He's had loads of letters addressed to Mr Lettinggo also because people who we've known after we married assume I took his name when we married. He doesn't have a strop about it though and point out people's mistakes.

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