to think its pretty normal for a four year old to still need pull ups at night?

[ilovemikidz]

i am a regular mnetter, my name is of a "foxy" variety usually

but i have namechanged for this as i am asking on behalf of my lovely friend (who isnt a mnetter, but SHOULD be ;) ) as will be sending her a link to this thread. hello! at friend.

her DD, aged 4, was toilet trained about 2 years ago, she grasped it very quickly and has been dry in the day since then. she is a bright, clever, advanced little girl but my friend is worried that she isn't dry at night times as she is expecting a baby in the autumn.

her MIL and DH are, IMO, putting her under pressure a bit to get her DD dry at nights, saying she "should be" dry at nights now, well i think thats utter bollocks TBH, all kids are different.

and in any case, i seem to think that its less to do with how "advanced" or otherwise a DC is but something to do with a hormone/chemical that is released that enables children to become dry at night? am i right?

anyway, please could some of you lovely ladies re assure my friend that there is no need to stress and that its totally normal for a child this age to still wear pull ups at night. :)

It's not something I discuss very often with people but I would say 4 is normal for pull ups yes.

My 4.2 year old daughter wets the bed about 6 or 7 times a month. She's not in pull ups but that's only because I can't justify spending the money when 3/4 of the time they will be dry. I'm not really worried but I am a little bit because, although it's not frequent, there's been no improvement this year, she doesn't wake up and, when she does wet, she REALLY wets!

My 8.7 year old daughter was dry day and night from about 2 and a half. But since she moved up into prep school last September she wets the bed whenever she is stressed or upset about anything, however small the problem is. She has also quite recently started wetting her pants at school too - mainly as a reaction to criticism or in fear of getting something wrong her teacher says. So, even though she trained herself so perfectly and her little sister's being a pain, she's ended up being the one I'm more worried about.

My friend's nearly 11 year old wets the bed around once a month fully and wets her pants a little bit most days. She just has no pelvic floor at all and can't hold on, it isn't her fault.

The only 'proof' I have is my kids.What do you want from this thread? What's 'normal'? Bloody hell.Pretty open ended question to ask.If your child wears pull ups fine.What exactly is the problem? If they were a little older and the question of sleepovers comes up,then maybe we could have a little more dialogue.
'Rockandstock'- back at you-

Why does it make us smug that our children were out of nappies at 3?? its a fact.
Not normal amongst my friends to wear pull ups to bed at 4m OP asked for opinions.
I feel sorry for little girl that MIL is voicing an opinion, I would try before baby arrives but not involve others in the process!!

Manic DD1, as I said upthread, wet the bed at night until around 9. She also often 'leaked' during the day. This was down to spina bifida occulta which was eventually picked up at around the age of 5. She went for lots of test at our local (London) hospital and we tried all sorts of medications in varying doses. The thing that worked the best, though, was bladder training to build the muscle. Basically involved having a wee immediately after every drink, hourly through the day. The aim was to hold on until a specified time. It took some time (not least because of this 'hidden' spina bifida which, incidentally has NO effect on her day to day life whatsoever), but with time and patience it worked.

I would, if this happened to my youngest for whatever reason, take her to the GP for a referral to the eneurysis nurse for more investigation. I can't for the life of me remember the meds that DD1 took that really helped in the end, but combined with the 'bladder training' she never looked back.

dexifehatz back I suppose

But as a postscript - I cannot use any of my children as a guide as they have all reached so called milestones at completely different ages. Gawd knows my life would have been easy if they'd done everything when the imaginary book said they would

We potty trained DS1 at 2.5 yrs and he was dry at night from the beginning. I honestly don't know why as didn't do anything special. He was in nappies for about 3 nights but they were dry every morning so didn't bother and just put a mat down.

dexie, you didn't just refer to your children though did you? You made a statement of fact. You clearly state that it's abnormal unless your children have SN. Basing this sweeping statement on a sample size of the product of your loins is at best, foolhardy.

I can't understand why every child isn't speaking sentences at 18 months. DD was. Fuck developmental differences, my child is Everyman.

I haven't read all the replies but my ds3 is almost 5 and is still wet at nights. We've been seeing the health visitor to try and establish the cause of him being wet and she told me it's most likely that he doesn't have the hormone yet to concentrate urine through the night but that they can give him hormone tablets when he's 5. In the meantime, her suggestions have been not to give him any drinks that are "brown" ie tea, hot choc, even apple and blackcurrant juices after 3 pm as they irritate the bladder, and also to get him to count up to 5, 10, 20 etc etc before he does a wee when he goes to the loo, just to get his bladder used to filling up and being able to recognise that full feeling. Hope this helps a wee bit!

We had DD's friend (9) over for a sleepover a few months ago and I found a wet nappy in our bathroom bin the following morning, the Mum hadn't mentioned it beforehand and DD didn't mention anything after. I didn't say anything to her Mum about it but I would be worried if this was my DC. OP, I found people (mainly of the older generation) love to tell you how their wonderful dc were dry day & night by 2yo, only because they had terry nappies!

Perfectly normal. All of my kids are older than 4 and all still wear pull ups at night. I was a late bed wetter and so were my siblings. It's easily managed with pull ups and regular showers. None of my friends know - I can't understand why you would need to have a discussion with your mates about what a fab, uber mum you are cos your kids don't wet the bed
OP - tell your friend it's not an issue. I've decided not to have any referrals done because I am pretty sure they will grow out of it, given the physiological impact on night time wetting.

DS was dry during the day at 2.4 but took till 3.4 for the night. I think with the night you just have to wait till they show signs of being ready, you can't push them.

My DS was dry at 2 during the day but only stopped wearing "night-time nappies" after Christmas (just before he was 5). Please assure your friend it is normal and if they are dry in the morning, does it matter?