To be furious that a male nursery worker took DD to the toilet today

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I have always felt that it is inappropriate for male members of staff to change babies nappies or take young children to the toilet without a female chaperone. As a paediatric nurse I know that it is common policy for male doctors, nurses and other healthcare professionals to have a female chaperone present when examining or carrying out treatments on children, if their parents are not present. Adult female patients are also given female chaperones during examinations where they are undressed. This is to protect their dignity and to spare embarrassment on both sides.

Why are these basic measures not in place in childcare settings?

On joining this specific nursery, I was assured that only female members of staff change nappies or take children to the toilet. I explicitly wrote in my DD's file, that she is only to be changed or taken to the toilet by female members of staff. Each time she has moved up to a new room within the nursery I have explicitly told her key carers the same.

I regularly ask my DD whether she went to the toilet and who took her, along with other questions about her day, like who she played with, what activities she did, what she had for lunch etc. Today she told me that the only male member nursery nurse took her to the toilet, without any other staff. She also said that she wiped herself and pulled her own knickers up, and does not seem at all upset, so I am confident that nothing untoward happened. However, I feel this was entirely inappropriate, and there were several female members of staff available to take DD to the toilet instead. I am absolutely furious that my wishes as her parent were not followed. Am I being unreasonable?

ok, so let's concede that more male nursery workers have been accused of child abuse.

Then let's balance that out with the fact that 98% of abuse is carried out by a friend or relative of the child either in the child's home or the home of said friend or relative.

Where does that leave your all-strange-men-are-a-threat-to-my-child theories? ?

webletteThu 09-Jun-11 15:32:48

But female staff are fine to take boys to the toilet because everyone knows it's just men that abuse...

YABVU

any body would think a female pedophile ring was not just uncovered and i am sure the mn ladies who are sw will tell you its not just men who abuse children.

very sad

and people wonder why men wont go in to teaching

I had to gently encourage drag kicking and screaming mine from the orphanage today.

I fully expect to be on the front of the Daily Mail tomorrow.

LOL Bimbo!!!

The nursery betrayed a customers trust and specific instructions. Why should she just accept it ?
And stick your pc bollocks up your arse - I'm also a mother who wouldn't want a man taking my dd to the toilet - that's my right and my choice.

MIFLAW...Is it true that men are more likely to abuse?

Don't you think all staff should ensure that they are not at risk from accusations and that nurseries should safeguard their children from potential abuse? I'm sure both the female and male abusers that have recently been caught were also 100% trusted.

so crapola based on your thinking, tehre should be no male nursery staff, care workers, teachers, counsellors, doctors etc. i mean these are all positions of power and teh organisations should be safguarding the children. shouldn't they?

The only paedophile I've ever known was a woman, who abused her own children (one boy, one girl.)

BimboNo5....Wow what an enlightening name, suits your comments.

I'm pretty sure my husband is not an abuser however if any little girls have ever been to the house and needed the loo he is not the one that takes them.

Will you be wearing a catsarsedmouth and clutching your pearls tightly across your Bodened bosom in the photo, Alistron1?

So primalscream, would you be happy for a female worker to take your kid to the toilet if you had a son? We have a male TA attached to our foundation stage who takes boys and girls to the loo - tomorrow I shall make a citizens arrest on him 'just in case'...

I often think that I've read all the bollockry possible on the interweb, but then a new thread comes along and raises the bar.

Boo.....No, not at all. I think any staff that have to be with children whilst they are half naked should be safeguarded, ie not alone.

smashinghair, I will work the slightly sinister 'pillar of the community look' whilst wearing paedo glasses. All kiddy fiddlers wear odd glasses don't they?

"The nursery betrayed a customers trust and specific instructions. Why should she just accept it ?" because what she is proposing is against the law.

"And stick your pc bollocks up your arse - I'm also a mother who wouldn't want a man taking my dd to the toilet - that's my right and my choice." no, it isn't. You have the right to keep your child at home and to thus choose to not have him/her changed by a man. If you choose to put him/her into a nursery setting you have no right to stipulate that a man cannot be responsible for his/her care. So if you want to have that choice then look after your own child, otherwise that's just tough.

crapola would you also be willing to double your childcare costs to ensure tehre was enough staff to implement this? never mind the huge tax increase to pay for teh extra staff in residential homes for children/hospitals/schools etc?

As long as when we're discussing rape and DV we say it's all square? Nah thought not.

"Men are more likely to abuse, men in positions of trust are more likely to abuse, men in 'caring' professions although much smaller in number are more likely to abuse." This is offensive because it is based on hearsay and I doubt the sample is large enough to be statistically valid, precisely because so few men work in the caring professions with young children.

It is offensive to suggest that a child's genitalia makes the gender of the adult looking after it somehow relevant at this age.

"Given that the nursery is teeming with females why should a male take a little girl?" Why shouldn't they. This is offensive.

Do you see? DO you?

FFS.

Anyway, I'm a bloke, as i sadi, so I have to be off now - I've got strangers' kiddies to prey on, donchano ...

Isn't sticking ones PC bollocks up ones arse slightly pervy?