To think the scum on Jeremy Kyle this morning

[Trillian]

and really an argument for enforced sterilization, eugenics or just bloody putting them down.

There is no hope for this country when feral vile "people" like this are allowed to breed.

One bloke no job two kids been sleeping with a girl her sister and her best friend, and good old tax payer picks up the tab.

Some people should not be allowed to breed.

I know its my own fault for watching it

nope will read back up.

shirls shouldn;t you be off somewhere thinking up fabbo ideas for entertainment?!

Shirl's idea of fabbo entertainment involve a vat of scrumpy, a Shaggy cd and a blowtorch.

I AM.

Haven't you read my latest blog?

Cheeky cow!

Shouldn't you be promoting my brooches on that bloody blog of yours anyway? Might give it a bit of class

You better be able to run, Shirls will have you for that one!

A 93 year old a work said to me after watching this , some girls really will sleep with anything wont they ? i couldnt disagree

Thing is though Voleface, that from her posts I thought she'd be a right ugly one, a bit of a bulldog chewing a wasp type if you know what I mean, but now IVe seen a photo I can say, hand on heart, that shes much better looking than you

Oh. Im so funny I could die.

Seriously, she's actually quite attractive.

i told my teenage neice to watch jeremy kyle, then pointed out that majority of guests have done drugs and drink too much and the result is............. seriously they should show it in pse lessons in schools! But it always makes me feel that my life is actually quite nice.

gosh bumpsoon they really have lifted the retirement age where you work

Brian - you have seen me in the flesh and you still think that Shirls is more attractive?

Seriously?

'Shirl's idea of fabbo entertainment involve a vat of scrumpy, a Shaggy cd and a blowtorch.'

Swap Shaggy for Wurzels and I fail to see the problem.....

Arf Peachy

Oh I hate Jezza Kyle, although I have known 4 people who have appeared on the Trisha Show, don't know what that says about me, actually 5 counting dp's brother in law, fgs.

Maybe I don't watch it in case I know hordes of people and have to admit my inward desire to visit a spray tan emporium and get a tattoo on my neck.

Disclaimer, my dp has shit loads of tattoos, some of them are nice, spray tans are shit though.

Eric - very good, especially the second clip. I can so see JK being that man.

LOL at ericnothmansmistress's links.

Sorry, this is long but I am angry and upset.

Trillian, you are fooling yourself about euthanasia. Your LO would have perished in Nazi Germany. I suggest you google the following:

Brandenburg
Grafeneck
Hadamar
Bernburg
Sonnenstein
Hartheim

Killing stations. It started with children and moved on to disabled adults like me - I have bipolar disorder. Then it moved on to disabled war veterans and old people. Also, if you have the stomach for it, try googling Dr Hermann Pfannmuller. And Viktor Brack and his experiments with sterilisation. I'm not going to describe them here as they are revolting, but the information is out there. It's also grim and terrifying to note that the Nazis got their ideas from AMERICA! Eugenics was going on there right up until the 1970s.

My mother and her siblings had the following "defects": bipolar (Mum), street sleeping alcoholism, psychotic illness; I could go on but might reveal too much. They were all in orphanages for several years where they were beaten and abused. How much did that have to do with it, I wonder?

I'm the only one of the second generation with any mental illness. I work full time, sing with a band, work for a charity and generally lead a regular kind of life. That wouldn't have saved me. Before diagnosis I was a basket case. Should I have been put to sleep like an unwanted dog?

Euthanasia is not a term to be bandied about, nor is it on to demonise people with terrible lives. Given their start in life, would you have done any better?

Aw, thanks, Mouseface. I haven't been here long and was half afraid I'd offend people. Bloody Pfannmuller got off with a measly SIX YEARS in prison. Not my idea of justice. He died in 1961. I doubt whether he was ever contrite.

Thanks, Opinionated. I've been a bit tearful since posting, remembering in particular what Pfannmuller did. We must never forget.

Well said Rufus (and welcome to MN)

That is why I WANT to believe in an afterlife: so that people like him get their fair dues.

Not sure I do, but i'd like to.

I've always had an interest in WW2 and the Nazis treatment of the Jews/Gypsies/mentally infirm/homosexuals etc.

I knew that disabled children were killed.

I had never heard of Pfannmuller and have just googled him.

You are right,we must never forget.

Amazing post Rufus.