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.. to use the disabled loo when out with DD

260 replies

Gster · 01/06/2011 11:08

I'd bet this has been covered many times, but I'm fairly new.

When I'm out with DD ( 2.5 years ) somewhere like a museum and she needs a pee-pee ( or me ) , I use the disabled loo. I obviously wouldn't venture into the ladies being a bloke, and more often than not the gents are pretty grim.

What do other dads do ?

Or general opinion.

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MarianneM · 01/06/2011 14:39

MmeLindor - I didn't really mean the hanging your DD by her dungarees, but the whole having to wriggle around in a toilet cubicle with your baby trying to pee is a bit silly.

And MamazOn Hmm

Mamaz0n · 01/06/2011 14:42

Hmm yourself.

can't see what is so controversial about saying if you aren't disabled you don't use the disabled toilet.

most men/womens toilets have numerous cubicles. There is inevitably only ever one, unisex disabled toilet.
You have a choice as to which you use, a disabled person doesn't.

if you use one you are a selfish bastard.

Same as if you use a supermarket mobility scooter cos you can't be bothered or you park in a disabled bay because its nearer the door etc etc.

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 01/06/2011 14:43

Mamaz0n - what about someone with a temporary need - such as me, when the griping urge for torrential diarrhoea comes upon me (IBS). If there are no vacant cubicles in the Ladies, may I use the disabled loo, or shall I just have an attack of horrendous diarrhoea everywhere?

Gster · 01/06/2011 14:44

MamazOn

have you read this thread ?

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MmeLindor. · 01/06/2011 14:48

Marianne
Ok, that wasn't a joke.

But tbh, I only did it once or twice when there was no alternative. I don't consider using the disabled toilet an alternative.

Mainly I parked DD outside the cubicle and chattered to her as I peed. Often I asked a friendly looking granny to keep an eye on her.

I don't think I have ever heard of a child being snatched out of a loo so I will take the chance.

yoshiLunk · 01/06/2011 14:57

I was a cafe the other day I saw a Mum on her own ask a friendly looking granny to watch her baby in the pram while she popped to the loo, - I did think to myself, 'yeah I would do that too'. i was also a bit Envy that she did ask me though, - baby was particularly cute.

yoshiLunk · 01/06/2011 14:58

didn't ask me

madonnawhore · 01/06/2011 15:01

All empty toilets are fair game imo: disabled, regular...

Was out with BF and his DD the other day and she needed a wee. She doesn't know me well enough yet for me to take her, so her dad took her with him into the men's. Some old man was nearby and said to me once they were in the loo that he thought it was disgusting, shouldn't be allowed, etc.

I replied it was none of his business and he was really rude. But I did feel for my BF - it's a tricky one when you're a dad on your own with a tiny daughter and she needs the loo.

I don't think it's U to use the disabled loo if it's free.

Riveninside · 01/06/2011 15:05

How about all the parents spend a few decades campaigning for buggy friendly loos like disabled people had to do? In some town centres there will be ONE accessible loo. In the whole town. Write to your local cou cils about this issue please if you simply cannot leave a baby i. A pram INSIDE the ladies loo but outside a cubicle.
Gawd some people have. Alazy sense of entitlement. We campaigned for years for toilets wheelchair users could use.

Riveninside · 01/06/2011 15:08

And please write for toilets that can change and hoist an adult disabled person. The more non disableds who join this campaign there might be a chance than when dd is bigger we wont be trapped indoors. She has to be hoisted out of a wheelchair and needs adult sized changing table. Right now theres one within 100 miles. Thanks

AmazingBouncingFerret · 01/06/2011 15:09

They have a special childrens cubicle at my local softplay, the first time I went in there I didnt realise until I sat down and noticed my knees came upto my ears.

yoshiLunk · 01/06/2011 15:11

There's a huge disabled toilet at the back of our Costas, but I cannot for the life of me see how anyone could get to it, let alone get in it past all the tables and chairs, - it really is so not wheelchair accessible.

madonnawhore · 01/06/2011 15:12

There should be more public toilets in general. It's a bloody nightmare when you're out for the day and having to find a nearby McDonald's or whatever.

Riveninside · 01/06/2011 15:17

Least you can do that madomnawhore. If we took dd to london theres three changing spaves in the whole city we can change dd in. Several times a day. They are literally miles apart. Most theme parks have none.
We no longer go out cos how can we hoist her out of her chair and where to change her nappy?
Lack of toilets like that means dd cannot go anywhere. Non disableds can go anywhere.

Gster · 01/06/2011 15:23

madonnawhore

I seem ember reading recently that due to the banks screwing everything up ' the cuts ' a lot of councils were planning on closing public loos and asking places like McDonalds to take up the slack.

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madonnawhore · 01/06/2011 15:25

I agree Riveninside, it is shabby. Most of the disabled toilets I see around London are like a token gesture anyway - no hoists or anything, just a bar on the wall and more floor space. It's crap.

TheHumanCatapult · 01/06/2011 15:28

yup as being disabled goes I can transfer so am lucky but thats if i can my chair next to the toilet without needing to juggle 3 nappy bins why oh why next to teh toilet arghhhhh.

LaWeasel · 01/06/2011 15:30

I remember working in a coffee shop a few years ago, and a guy came in from the council saying they wanted to run a special on how disability friendly we were.

We were in that the staff were lovely, and we always made an effort to do whatever we could, had regular groups of people with learning disabilities and their carers and there was a ramp at the front etc.

But you had to go up a step to get into the disabled loo!! Which regularly trashed and closed while we tried to find time to clear it up. It was bloody stupid and shows how often people who have no clue get to decide what counts as accessible or not.

SardineQueen · 01/06/2011 15:41

Oh great. And I thought we had reached a nice resolution.

The idea that people should not be able to use a toilet at all (sometimes there is only one and it has a disabled sign on it), or should shit themselves, or have their children piss all over themselves, rather than use a perfectly good empty toilet is just weird.

I had real problems at my local hospital with this, and I wrote about it on here, and was told to keep the hell out of the disabled ones. But they were all frigging disabled, apart from the ones two floors down and across the other side of the hospital near the reception. It was a nightmare.

HarrietJones · 01/06/2011 15:47

AbigailS- of course you canHmm

VictorGollancz · 01/06/2011 15:51

Don't feel bad, StayingDavidTennantsGirl. I have IBS and I have, on desperate occasion, used the disabled loo. Too much information is going to follow, avert eyes now if sensitive: I get appalling cramps which are sometimes alleviated by fully stretching out my legs; I have been known to let off a volley of explosive farts; I have frequently sat on the toilet and wept because of the pain; a number of years ago (it's abated somewhat since THANK GOD) I would finish going, only for the motion of standing up and walking to set me off again. This led to me doing laps of the disabled loo with my trousers round my ankles.

I am not sensitive about bolidy functions (as if anyone with IBS could be!) but sometimes it is far too fucking much to sit in a teeny cubicle with people all around and spend the twenty-odd minutes that I need to, doing any combination of the above. Sometimes, sure, I can sit and sniffle and anyone who hears me can simply just sod off - other times, well I'm sorry but I need that disabled loo just as much. IBS cramping is instant - as well as the disabled loo, I have also been reduced to crapping in a bin in my bedroom (student house, no free toilet), by the side of a motorway and in the middle of (thankfully wooded) dual carriageway seperator thing in Malta. It's really not fun at all.

VictorGollancz · 01/06/2011 15:54

I also don't seem to be able to spell or deploy italics correctly. Ack.

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 01/06/2011 16:09

Thankyou Victor - it's nice to know I'm not the only one. Smile

Teenytiny · 01/06/2011 16:26

No my Df does this when he takes the girls to the toilet. he dont like taking them into the gents cos its minging usually so he says.

Shoesytwoesy · 01/06/2011 16:41

you don't need to be incontinent to need a disabled loo, dd isn't but she needs the space due to her wheelchair and carer, so family toilets would be good, we could use them.