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but has Natalie Cassidy been heading for huge fall for a while??

233 replies

tl10 · 26/05/2011 20:42

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1390608/Natalie-Cassidy-emerges-time-fianc-Adam-Cottrells-arrest-calms-nerves-cigarette.html

Sounds very cruel but after months (have just returned to work from maternity) of reading trashy magazines in which she attacks anyone who goes to work/ bottlefeeds/ is a new mum but looks 100 times better than her and then shows off about how much sex she has with her husband (yeah, thanks for sharing) as if she is the authority on motherhood for us all, that her relationship may have so mething to do with her issues with everyone else and need to constantly show off? I feel for her horrible experience but she has made herself seem hideously smug and hypocritical over the last year- ugh rant over.

OP posts:
bibbitybobbityhat · 27/05/2011 11:59

I simply do not understand why people are arguing there is no connection, in the op's mind, between the "pride" and the domestic violence.

NC's partner has just been arrested for beating her and there is a story about it in one of the papers.

Op starts thread on Mumsnet saying NC has been heading for a fall for some time.

Is it just a coincidence that she posted that particular thread title yesterday?

What exactly is op trying to say anyway?

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Original poster
tl10 · 27/05/2011 12:02

Christ almighty is this still going on?!! Seriously after looking after a teething baby and working on a work project all day yesterday looking back at that first post I agree it could have been massively misinterpreted and my grammar/typing was a bit off. I said as much 5 pages ago! To then perceive me as a advocate of dv when I'm a woman myself and don't have those views- and have said that from the start- reeks of hysteria! What's wrong with you all? If the issue upsets you that much then donate to an organisation like women's aid or give your time to them as a volunteer rather than being a keyboard warrior and rambling at strangers on the internet and ultimately being just as verbally abusive to other people even if you don't like what they have to say. Or support a friend who has had to endure that kind of rubbish and show them kindness. I don't agree with a few things I've read on here but I don't get nasty and personal. By carrying it on and then using it to slyly slag off the lass how are you any different to what I had to say in the first place? Oh yeah I forgot in my first post I blatantly said she deserved a good smack- sorry yeah I forgot. WTF?!!

Seriously, some of you must be on here 24-7- get out and enjoy life, spend time with your lovely kids and stop taking your issues out on people you don't know and will never meet but do something productive with them in real life instead if horrible things like DV really anger you. Right am off this daft website for good, feel free to waste your day and precious time slagging me off for the next 10000000 pages with people you won't ever meet. See ya!

OP posts:
MollysChamber · 27/05/2011 12:03

Poor woman.

I didn't watch her reality show so perhaps have missed something but she's seems like a nice person to me.

Either way no one deserves to be a victim of domestic violence.

TheOriginalFAB · 27/05/2011 12:10

OP - you can't deny your OP was out of order.

prettyfly1 · 27/05/2011 12:17

the original fab leave it - she is back to nm's by the looks of it. Sheesh talk about hysterical. This thread has actually been really interesting - I dont agree with some of the people on here but the perspectives and considerations given have been fascinating so I dont get the whole "mass hysteria" finger pointing - surely in aibu the point is people will either agree, or not and everyone knows it does get very blunt indeed - the whole "mob" thing doesnt stand to reason here as this is very much a place where a large number will agree, a large number wont and everyone has a right to say either way - we dont have a "right ten YANBU'S" AND NOONE ELSE CAN POST, if you dont like it dont use AIBU. Simples :)

madonnawhore · 27/05/2011 12:18

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scottishmummy · 27/05/2011 12:18

aha so its our fault?we are out of order op?just like ms cassidy...
thanks for clarifying that
face it you wrote a doozey and had if you been agreed with you wouldn't spit oot your dummy saying we all spend too much time on mn
thread hasnt gone how you anticipated and youre huffy about it.

madonnawhore · 27/05/2011 12:19

Oh and Biscuit, just in case my withering sarcasm doesn't translate.

prettyfly1 · 27/05/2011 12:21

damn phone apologies for shocking grammar.

P.S. TL10 I love that you said you don't get personal, in the same post as getting very personal indeed. Snort. Welcome to MN. :)

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 27/05/2011 12:22

scottishmummy... there's no "we" about it, surely we're individuals with differing opinions. I didn't disagree with the OP because I read her post differently. I don't like the 'ganging up/back-slapping' mentality that some posters seem to enjoy. I'd rather think for myself and stay independent, thanks.

prettyfly1 · 27/05/2011 12:28

Lying that is fine and I totally agree with your sentiments - your post is almost identical to one I was going to write about the fact that I disagreed with her, I dont give a hoot if everyone else on the thread agreed with her I chose to disagree - I dislike the whole "oh you all disagree so you are all a pack thing" in the same way you feel like because you agreed there is a pack against that - there is no pack, there is no backslapping there are two sides, one who vehemently agree and one who dont and DV is a hugely emotive topic that really does get people going.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 27/05/2011 12:55

I see back-slapping people... Confused

That worked so much better on 'Sixth Sense'... Blush

I get your point prettyfly, from one free spirit to another. I think this thread was all in the interpretaton of the OP - I didn't read 'domestic violence', I read 'smugness and naivety'.

nijinsky · 27/05/2011 13:35

cornflowers Surely only a German could have invented a word for taking perverse delight in the misfortunes of others.

Bit ironic that this whole thread on a British hosted site, is such a series of examples of Schadenfreude, and not just in relation to the subject of the post. I agree with the sheep and herd like mentality comments!

Is the OP not simply highlighting one of the problems with the culture of celebrity and reality tv stars (does Natalie Cassidy have a reality tv programme?)? They put their whole personal lives out there and make money from them, so any misfortune/humiliation is equally public.

There are thousands of women suffering from domestic violence, of whom Natalie Cassidy is now one. It would be great if something positive could come out of this, rather than a media circus.

prettyfly1 · 27/05/2011 13:38

lying lolololol - that made me chuckle. Nijinsky I dont agree with your interpretation but I really hope you are right about something positive coming out of it.

IprivateI · 27/05/2011 13:41

I don't think her OP was out of order, you have all misinterpreted her, the poor cow. She was trying to get at how you shouldn't show off about things, because what you have may get jynxed and taken away. I don't see where in her post she has written that it was a good job Sonia got beaten up.

She actually says "I feel sorry for her horrible experience"....then she goes on to say she shouldn't have showed off.

That doesn't sound like she's happy about her being beaten up. No one is. I don't know any woman who is happy about Sonia getting beaten up, so just stop this silliness.

hairfullofsnakes · 27/05/2011 13:51

oh my! ANOTHER post where we agree YINGWITCH! lol

Whassss going on?!!!!!!!! Wink

(c'mon - admit in that thread where we disagreed you were wrong and I was sooooooooooo right?!) innit... Wink

hairfullofsnakes · 27/05/2011 13:51

that should have said lyingwitch by the way...

Animation · 27/05/2011 13:58

Ti10

I like the way you stood up for yourself there - I like to see that when people get rounded on !

Don't take posters' comments personally and leave the site. Your initial post was sailing a bit close to the wind - and I can see how your sentiments were misunderstood. I think you're a good egg - and meant well. Smile

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 27/05/2011 14:17

I know, hairfullofsnakes... I was hoping it would slide under the radar, but there it is in black and white.. Blush

I can't even remember what the thread was we disagreed on.. it was that important... but whatever it was, I am nearly never wrong. Grin

sausagesandmarmelade · 27/05/2011 14:29

Also glad T10 stuck up for herself....and agree that she should NOT leave because of the misinterpretation (deliberate I tend to think) of her comments.

If people leave...because they get attacked by a pack of people who twist and misinterpret comments for their own bizarre reasons...then what will we be left with?

Being attacked makes me more determined than ever...
Just shows people up for what they really are.

Back to the German comment...re Shadenfreude...it was bound to offend some...especially any German's reading the comments (in spite of the back-tracking). It implies that German's as a whole derive pleasure from the misfortune of others.....

nijinsky · 27/05/2011 14:32

...or the other interpretation is that only Germans have the honesty to admit to a common personality trait and give it a name...

DontCallMePeanut · 27/05/2011 14:44

Yes, I'm glad tl defended herself. But

sausagesandmarmalade, I disagree about the misinterpretation part. The OP posted about a correllation between NC's attitude and the attack (or the fact she was heading for a huge fall)

It was something that, no matter how you word it, is unfavourable. It wouldn't have mattered how she worded it, it was so easily interpreted as OP saying it was something NC brought upon herself. It's not the rest of MN looking for a fight, but the fact that something which is, at heart, ignorant to domestic abuse was posted. It wasn't misinterpretation at all.

sausagesandmarmelade · 27/05/2011 14:46

Your prerogative Peanut

Nobody has to agree with me.......

I hold to my view of course

DontCallMePeanut · 27/05/2011 14:51

And I respect that I truly do. I just think to claim it's a deliberate misinterpretation is a bit.... I can't actually find the word I'm looking for...

But yeah... Everyone interprets a text differently. And a lot have interpreted the OP in the same way. :)

hairfullofsnakes · 27/05/2011 14:59

Lyinhwitch - it was about preg smokers and you indicated I was a kiss ass you naughty naughty witch!

I may be a lot of things but kiss ass I ain't! Lol

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