Is having pubic hair deemed unhygienic

[taylor74]

Just following on from another thread.
Do people see others who don't shave or wax down below as unhygienic.
Personally I'm smooth below but that's my preference.
What's others views on this?

Its up to each lady to decide for herself but its definitely NOT unhygenic to have pubic hair! Its completely natural :)

Mumcentre, when my dad was a young man in the 70s, half of your list would have been deemed 'unmanly'. Now it's the norm.

Fashions/cultures move on. In this respect, what is initially thought of as outrageous very soon becomes accepted.

nailak - I did know that some cultures do this, yes. But is that any more positive a message, if females are 'told' to remove hair?

Surely the important thing is, it hurts to pluck out hair; sometimes it may hurt to shave. If you want to do it, that's your choice, but shouldn't we question why these things becomes cultural norms, even in some cases expected from puberty, or seen as the way to avoid being 'unhygienic'?

lol smarty I'm sure thats the truth..but I'm a woman who wants a man who smells good even at the time my DH was doing what he does 80s-90s he was a trend-setter...but if he started shaving/waxing himself and feeling bad because he didn't..imo it's fucked up..thats your natural state

So, mumcentre, would you mind me asking? Do you leave your armpits and legs in their 'natural state'?

i forot to say its not just females it is males as well, equality and all that

and like i said its not about fashion it is somethin that has been done for 100s of years by males and females in a lot of african, asian, middle eastern and far eastern cultures, (and obv brazil :p), so maybe the west is just a bit behind on this?

obviously noone should be expected to conform to cultural norms if they dont feel comfortable doin it

Yes I do during winter esspecially...but I have to state that my legs are not particularly hairy...

presumably the men don't remove their hair after their periods though, unless they've achieved a really unusual level of gender equality.

I think you're right no-one should have to conform to cultural norms - but I think as well it's important to question whether those 'norms' are healthy and good for us, too.

Funnily enough I always thought I would not like a hairy guy..go figure my man is hairy and I don't care..what i care about is he's not smelly and he's smart

I'm a sexually mature adult female human and as such have body hair.

It's very interesting that the myths people believe about these sorts of things are often the opposite of the truth.

Removing pubic hair is unhygienic.

And it looks really weird.

"I'm a sexually mature adult female human and as such have body hair.

It's very interesting that the myths people believe about these sorts of things are often the opposite of the truth.

Removing pubic hair is unhygienic.

And it looks really weird."

In your opinion, TimeWasting.

I too am a sexually mature adult female human, and as such have decided I want to shave my bush. It is just as valid a choice as yours, and is perfectly hygienic, I assure you.

Nowhere on this thread have I been so rude as to say that women with unshaven muffs are unhygienic - kindly extend me the same courtesy.

In my opinion it looks weird.
It grows there for hygiene reasons. Evolution mostly works things out in our favour after all.

Of course you have the right to shave it off.

But, it's not more hygienic.

That's a justification, like when women were encouraged to wear strict corsets to support their weak frames.

I'm ALL WOMAN!
Even my legs are au naturell.
But I have fair, fine hair

TimeWasting,
add circumsition to that list, a trend that's now being passed off as 'more hygenic'

and like i said its not about fashion it is somethin that has been done for 100s of years by males and females in a lot of african, asian, middle eastern and far eastern cultures, (and obv brazil :p), so maybe the west is just a bit behind on this?

In these cultures, are women making free, individual choices on that matter?

Because if there is any sort of expectation on them either by men or by their culture, then I am more than happy that 'the West is just a bit behind on this'.

you'd get dry blood in the hair

Which is prevented by cleaning each time you change your towel. Is it really that hard to understand?

I use reusable towels. I have all my hair down there. I am not unclean nor unhygienic. I wipe with a damp cloth/wipe whenever I put on a new towel (often) ans therefore, no dry blood in hair!

I know - all these people saying 'you'd get dried blood in the hair', for example, are revealing a lot more about their own hygiene habits than anyone else's...

I do wonder about this "hygenic' business. Have these people never heard of washing?

But I think it's just post hoc rationalization. People don't say "I circumcised my son because I have a bizarre cultural or religious oblication to do it" or "bBcause my son's father is insisting that I do it." They say "Oh, it's so much cleaner and more hygenic"

Circumcision is, obviously, of a different order of magnitude than shaving. But the thinking is the same.

Some of those cultures mentioned where shaving is considered the norm also sew it all up too don't they?

Have to butt in with a correction here, even thought it was actually done first a few pages back but no-one seemed to notice:

It was John RUSKIN (19th century art critic, cultural critic etc) about whom the story of his wife's pubic hair being a shock to him on their wedding night is told, not John MILTON, poet who wrote Paradise Lost etc. Though the exact details may well have been embellished. Ruskin had a slightly odd attitude to women. His wife, if anyone's interested, got married again after their marriage was annulled, to John Everett Millais (another artist) and had 8 children, so presumably he had no such issues.

As you were.

I noticed, eighties chick - and I said it was a bizarre, Grauniad-type brain failure on my part. I have been amusing myself thinking about Milton and pubic hair since, though!

Ah, mystery solved! Thanks eighties. Though I, too, will be imagining some Miltonic statue-stroking ...

I have to say, it is ridiculous to go to the 'it looks weird' argument from either side of this - come on, be honest, how many of you have looked at men's tackle and thought 'what elegance!'

And yet we still seem to like it.

If the tackle was shaved I would think it looked weird.

Ok, I said weird, what I really wanted to say is that I consider it to be infantilising and fetishistic.
Not that that is what the women think of it, I'm sure.
But then I consider high heels to be instruments of oppression.