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Does anybody actually know anyone who had an ELCS just because they thought they were "too posh to push"?

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InAStateOfReflux · 24/05/2011 10:22

Just watching the Wright stuff. One of the hot topics is that apparently ELCS rates being performed by the NHS are rising because people are deciding they are "too posh to push" and it's costing the NHS lots of money. Hmm

They are suggesting that these women should be offered psychiatric counselling to bring them round to the idea of having a vaginal birth.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I was given an ELCS because my dd was breech and was in fact strongly advised to (not given much choice in fact) and anyone else I know who's had one has been offered it because of significant trauma or complications in a previous birth.

I have never however met a woman who insisted on one on the NHS just cause she didn't fancy pushing it out of her fanny, and I doubt the NHS would go with this anyway tbh...

And if they're talking about women who have real fears and emotional distress regarding child-birth, then yes of course lets force the hysterical wench to push it out, does she not know how much money she's costing the NHS? Hmm

Oh how I love the way the media portray these issues...[sigh] Yes perhaps ELCS rates are rising and perhaps this should be addressed in some way, but to suggest it is for such fickle reasons is so juvenile. Angry Perhaps it is the HCPs fault and not the whole female population who are apparently too cowardly to push their babies out?

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teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:38

No i stopped somking with my first baby

I smoked with my second i cut down i took speaicl classes but i was a wreck with my second after my little boy so before anyone starts on me i would really not enjoy it.. I had all the help offered to me and was going through a hobbible time i dont wanna talk about it but if i had smoked throughout my first belive me i would of NEVER gone through with my second because i would of even more so belived it was my fault

Sorry but can we stay on subject with other questions please im not bing nasty its just not somthing i want to defend myself for

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:41

im not saying your baby should not be here no why would i say that
You have your own reason

CoteDAzur · 28/05/2011 22:41

"i was a wreck with my second after my little boy so before anyone starts on me i would really not enjoy it"

That's life, though, isn't it? Why didn't you just get over it?

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:42

there is a big line between really need and want
Thats all i was saying everyone must just think different which is fine ok :)

xstitch · 28/05/2011 22:43

SO what did you mean when you said women shouldn't get pregnant if a section is their first option for birth then? I can sure that is certainly how it reads.

Mollydollydoll · 28/05/2011 22:43

I see your point lockets I think when we get on the subject of NHS resources some say obese people, smokers, drug addicts should not get treatment I know you was not saying that. It's s passionate subject I think. And no opinion is the right one on a subject like this.

lockets · 28/05/2011 22:43

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teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:45

CoteDAzur S

I am not going to answer that at all totally uncalled for now i really hope your family all life long and happy lives do not want to speak to you
i will answer any unhurtful comments honestly

CoteDAzur · 28/05/2011 22:45

CoteDAzur Sat 28-May-11 17:03:29
Haughty - What is "need", though?

Would you say a pregnant woman contemplating stabbing herself in the abdomen rather than go through another VB "needs" a CS?

How about one who can't sleep from anxiety and can't stop crying as she sets foot within a maternity?

Who decides if one is a "need" and the other is a "want"?

Mollydollydoll · 28/05/2011 22:45

Teaforone I'm an ex smoker and I know its hard. But when I knew that we wanted a baby we both stopped and its been 7 years.

CoteDAzur · 28/05/2011 22:46

Oh, you thought that was hurtful, did you?

Why did you say exactly the same things to those of us who have had a horrible time with birth trauma?

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:47

Why would it be a healthy happy first mummys first choice to be cut open it would not would it..
Like i said if there are reasons then there are reasons but today it seems alot of people are getting the facts its a easy normal option but its not and should not be spread about that it is

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:48

CoteDAzur S

For godness sake be grateful your baby was healthy and is alive today yeah stop trying to go on about somthing you dnt know ..

CoteDAzur · 28/05/2011 22:49

"it's life, it's nature, you get over it surely?" is a hurtful comment to people's suffering, then, would you not agree?

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:50

Molly- Well done :)

lockets · 28/05/2011 22:50

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CoteDAzur · 28/05/2011 22:51

"stop trying to go on about somthing you dnt know .."

A commendable practice you should try to emulate.

All I did was repeat your own words. I bet they hurt.

xstitch · 28/05/2011 22:51

'Why would it be a healthy happy first mummys first choice to be cut open it would not would it..' I am not a first time mum. I am still interested to know what you did mean with your earlier post.

'facts its a easy normal option but its not and should not be spread about that it is' Would you rather mum's were told it was abnormal, that they were abnormal or in some way at fault. because that is how it is in society and quite frankly it should change.

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:52

that is totally different i was on about the pain of childbirth not the pain of losing a child i do not understand why you are randomly going through things you were not even involved in you really do not know

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:53

please stop putting words in my posts
No its not abnormal but its not the way we were made to give birth is it if it is needed then yes its a fantastic joy of todays science okay

CoteDAzur · 28/05/2011 22:55

We were not talking about the pain of childbirth, you dingbat.

Nobody here asked for a CS because they were oh so scared of the pain Angry

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:56

i think you just do not like the idea of somone having a different view i was in no way pointing at any one being a bad mummy at all so im not going to keep saying the same things over and over

lockets · 28/05/2011 22:56

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teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:58

well thankyou because that was point i was actually at the time of those messages AGES ago talking to somone who was saying about pain so ...... again you do not need to answer points i did not say to you really do you

CoteDAzur · 28/05/2011 22:58

Here, teaforone, have a Biscuit

You have not made sense on this thread. Maybe it's time to lay off the wine and go to bed.