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Does anybody actually know anyone who had an ELCS just because they thought they were "too posh to push"?

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InAStateOfReflux · 24/05/2011 10:22

Just watching the Wright stuff. One of the hot topics is that apparently ELCS rates being performed by the NHS are rising because people are deciding they are "too posh to push" and it's costing the NHS lots of money. Hmm

They are suggesting that these women should be offered psychiatric counselling to bring them round to the idea of having a vaginal birth.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I was given an ELCS because my dd was breech and was in fact strongly advised to (not given much choice in fact) and anyone else I know who's had one has been offered it because of significant trauma or complications in a previous birth.

I have never however met a woman who insisted on one on the NHS just cause she didn't fancy pushing it out of her fanny, and I doubt the NHS would go with this anyway tbh...

And if they're talking about women who have real fears and emotional distress regarding child-birth, then yes of course lets force the hysterical wench to push it out, does she not know how much money she's costing the NHS? Hmm

Oh how I love the way the media portray these issues...[sigh] Yes perhaps ELCS rates are rising and perhaps this should be addressed in some way, but to suggest it is for such fickle reasons is so juvenile. Angry Perhaps it is the HCPs fault and not the whole female population who are apparently too cowardly to push their babies out?

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Mollydollydoll · 28/05/2011 22:21

CoteDAzur my friend was the same as you and your so right no way should you be belittled. You did what was essential to your baby getting your baby out safely and that meant having a c section.
So folks don't make anyone feel bad about it as you don't know all the facts.

lockets · 28/05/2011 22:22

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xstitch · 28/05/2011 22:23

It sounds to me as if lockets is trying to understand your views teadforone To me that is a good thing in a discussion.

Really panzee. I get an incredibly strong urge to slap people who tell me I am too posh to push and I am not a violent person.

Mollydollydoll · 28/05/2011 22:24

As I said before I'd do it again and again. It's not being selfish it's being a good mother. Why distress your baby by not doing it? Yes I wanted natural but when the Dr told me what it would do to my baby it upset me. No way was I going to distress my baby.

CoteDAzur · 28/05/2011 22:24

teaforone - People are not arguing with you. This is called a debate. It's what we do on MN, especially on AIBU threads.

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:24

past promblems as in previous baby got stuck or mummy struggled with size etc

Im not slagging anyone off it is choice

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:25

again as i said before if it is needed then its a great thing surely.......

lockets · 28/05/2011 22:26

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teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:26

as for smokers again its the case of any illness if something is needed and its avaible of course everyone has the right for it

Mollydollydoll · 28/05/2011 22:27

Sorry off subject so don't shout at me :)
Did you smoke whilst pregnant teaforone ?

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:27

yes i do know thats why i said in serious cases :)

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:29

I do not see how that is relevent to c sections and i have had enough off insults today

Ive said my views now :)

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teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:31

NO!! People should not get preggers and take it as a first opition

teaforone · 28/05/2011 22:32

but thats MY view

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Mollydollydoll · 28/05/2011 22:32

Teaforone I was not insulting you that's not what I'm about I was curious as smoking during pregnancy causes heart defects that's all and my mom smoked throughout her pregnancy with me.
As I said don't shout I was just asking that's all :)

xstitch · 28/05/2011 22:34

'NO!! People should not get preggers and take it as a first opition'

According to my notes it is my first option, are you saying my baby shouldn't exist? I really hope I have misunderstood your post.

CoteDAzur · 28/05/2011 22:34

Before you came along with profound & thoughtful comments like "Sounds mad to me its life its nature you get over it surely??" and "Why would you get preggers if you didnt want to give birth ????????", people were trying to have a conversation about what is "need".

Mollydollydoll · 28/05/2011 22:34

So my mom smoked all her life and lung cancer killed her are you saying that cause she smoked its her own fault so should not be entitled to NHS resources even though she paid tax all her life?

CoteDAzur · 28/05/2011 22:35

Will you do me a personal favor and stop saying "preggers"?

Mollydollydoll · 28/05/2011 22:36

Hate that word something a teenager would say

Mollydollydoll · 28/05/2011 22:38

Teaforone just cause someone as a different opinion to you doesn't mean they are getting to you, it's a forum people debate.

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