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...to expect support from DP when MIL has annoyed me?

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LynetteScavo72 · 09/05/2011 15:10

I'm in the middle of a big rift with DP following a visit from his mother over the weekend. I am 31+4 and it's our first pregnancy after 10yrs of ttc, a mc and about a yr of IVF before our BFP. We didn't tell MIL about our inf problems, but we know she found out from another family member because she has mentioned it a number of times, though still acts as if she doesn't know at other times (she is neither the sharpest tool nor my best friend, as you can probably tell...) Anyway - she basically knows what a big deal this pg is for us and it's her third grandchild, but she is still acting a bit like it's her own child and it's annoying me! Sorry this is long (and hardly original) but I need a rant.
Firstly, she decided almost as soon as she found out I was pg that it was a boy and she was excited as this was what she wanted. This was the first thing that annoyed me - my experiences with my mc and inf have made me particularly cynical with people thinking they are a bit spiritual/psychic when it comes to conception, and to me this kind of comment is rather offensive as it implies that she thinks she has a superior connection to my child than I do. It is indeed a boy and she has been gloating ever since.
The second thing is that she has been going on and on to my DP about what she has seen in the shops and what she is going to buy. Though I've done a very basic nursery list, I haven't brought anything home yet, nor shopped for any nice extras, as this is something I wanted to leave as late as possible when I know all is well. Also, I have waited a long time to choose things for my nursery and baby and it's probably going to be my only chance! I was therefore a bit put out when MIL came to visit at the weekend and brought something with her...
During the weekend she told my partner that he was to phone her as soon as I went into labour - I immediately said that I would not even be telling my own mother as it might be a long labour and she might turn up at the hospital (ha ha - hint hint) - but she said that her daughter's labour had only been ten mins (my DP and FIL then pointed out that it was in fact 17 hrs but that she didn't tell anyone - MIL chose not to hear this). She got a bit stroppy, saying that she couldn't come to the hospital (she lives too far away) and I said that labour could go on for ages and might (!) be a very stressful time, so it would be difficult to update everyone all the time (point made, I feel!).
Finally, during an anecdote about a recent run-in we had with a rude cashier in the bank, she said, "I hope my little man wasn't getting stressed out", as if I had been terribly irresponsible to allow this to happen. I deliberately "misunderstood" her and gestured towards my DP, saying that he was quite calm and just worried about me - and she said no, she meant "her little man" (pointing at my bump). I said no, that was her little man and this was mine (ha ha gritted teeth). As she left, she said the next time she would be seeing us, she would have her grandson. I said yes, we might have a child, too;)
All was left amicable. I totally get that there are far worse MILs out there and that she is basically a nice though slightly insensitive woman who is excited about her new grandchild (whilst I am a fairly irrational creature who has been embittered by infertility!). I do however feel a bit crowded out by her as she seems to have no awareness that the baby is going to be our desperately long awaited child first and her (third!) grandchild second. Hopefully, though she did not pick up on my attempts to set her straight this weekend, my lovely, sensitive FIL will have, and will gently remind her of the need to remember her place!

So what's the issue? It's my DP. He refuses to acknowledge that I have any right to feel pushed out by his mother. I mentioned the things that have annoyed me about her - but he says I am wrong to feel like this. I have made it clear that I don't think she is horrible or deliberately trying to push me out, but that I have an emotional response to her behaviour - but he's just angry at what he sees as unjustified criticism of his mother. Last night he was shouting whilst I was crying. I now just feel really alone in this situation, and angry with him that he can't be supportive about how I feel - without judging his mother, who is clearly incapable of empathy. We really have reached a stalemate in this and he is just waiting for me to say I was being irrational and had no right to feel that way at the time, which I am not going to do. This does not bode well for the future.
Is it too much to hope for a man to see that his mother might hurt his partner's feelings, even unintentionally? What are your thoughts?

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Newgolddream · 09/05/2011 16:28

Good point Mrspoc - if Op did discuss it with her Mum why shouldnt her DH have discussed it with his to? Or do some people think its only women who need emotional support from their Mums, the minute a man is married is he meant to get all of the support he needs from his wife and not his Mum?

usualsuspect · 09/05/2011 16:28

yabu ..shes excited to be a grandma, it is allowed....she can't turn her feelings off just because you don't like them

Wamster · 09/05/2011 16:28

I can't stand my (ex) mil, but I'm not going to let that cloud my judgement.
YABU -all it sounds to me is that she's excited about birth of grandchild, but I can understand a bit of irrationality from you at the moment.

With mils, you've got to pick your battles carefully; if she is being unreasonable then your dp should bloody well put you first. Always and no exceptions. But, in all fairness, this is not one of those times. So let it go.

Wamster · 09/05/2011 16:30

If you can't bear to be around her, use tiredness as an excuse not to see her at times.

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 09/05/2011 16:30

I think you are very unreasonable to have told other family members about your IVF/infertility problems but not your DP's mother!

As a mum of two boys threads like this make me want to cry because I worry that I will always be viewed as the interfering outsider, rather than included.

DuelingFanjo · 09/05/2011 16:34

MrSpoc, I had ivf and everyone discussed it. It was horrible, specially as everyone knew when I was testing and had it not worked out they would all have known. I can understand why the op might tell some people but not others though clearly whoever she did tell wasn't particularly supportive or private about it anyway :(

Wamster · 09/05/2011 16:35

Disagree. Mils do not have right to know really personal aspects of their children's lives. That sort of thing makes me want to puke, tbh. Her son is a grown man now, not a little boy, what he chooses to tell her is up to him.

LynetteScavo72 · 09/05/2011 16:38

Gosh - I seem to have stirred up lots of issues here. I did say in my original post that I know my MIL is a nice woman who is excited about her grandchild. Of course she hasn't done anything wrong in buying a present for the baby and her prediction of the gender was just a manifestation of her excitement! What I didn't say was that no, I did not even tell my own mother about our infertility problems and only told another family member because circumstances made it unavoidable. And I don't really mind that they passed it on either - I just could not talk about it to anyone and I didn't want either side to have to face the disappointment that we were facing unless/until it was absolutely necessary. Also, I have no issue with my MIL or anyone else coming to visit us immediately after the baby arrives - I am just beside myself with anxiety about the labour and would much prefer not to be worrying about everyone else's anxiety when the time comes!

Thank you to all those who have offered support. I recently lost an important support mechanism and I really miss being about to talk freely and openly - that's probably what this is about. Even though you know some of your feelings are not entirely fair on the other person, sometimes things upset you and you need to talk it through. It was probably such a ridiculously long rant that some people didn't read it through to the end - don't blame you really!

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neighbourhoodwitch · 09/05/2011 16:38

No you are not being U at all. I am sure I feel just the same.

Perhaps you are a highly sensitive person (like me) - she sounds like a pain whilst at the same time probably coming from a good place.

Some people need to back off. Can you and your DP talk to someone perhaps?

cantspel · 09/05/2011 16:39

Yes up to him so if he chooses to discuss the ivf with his mum then fine and if he chooses to ring his mum on the way to the hospital for the birth than also fine.

Newgolddream · 09/05/2011 16:39

duellingfanjo - sorry you had such a hard time, I cant imagine how emotionally draining and demanding it must all have been Sad. I can see why the OP might only want to talk to certain people about her IVF but still think the same rights should be applied to her DH to. Of course we dont know if she talked about it with her Mum, only surmising at the moment, would just seem a bit hypocritical if this was the case.

I to was a bit suss at your BIL and SIl stating they didnt want the GPs visiting for 2 weeks but I can see the point since you explained.

kc0rns1lk · 09/05/2011 16:40

Congratulations Lynette - didn't know you were expecting! Smile
Hope you're okay.

clam · 09/05/2011 16:40

She's excited, you're irritated by it. It'll pass, but NOT if your DP continues to tell you that your feelings are wrong. Your feelings are your feelings.

Newgolddream · 09/05/2011 16:41

Sorry lynette just read your post about not telling your Mum - that answers that question Smile

Wamster · 09/05/2011 16:41

Lynette what your dp should have done is this: Put his arms around you and said, 'I know she has upset you, but she means no harm' and given you a cuddle.

hilltop666 · 09/05/2011 16:42

OP I can see both sides of the argument and tink most people are being a bit harsh on you - I have a MIL that I don't get on with that well and I have just realised that I disect every little thing she says and does and look for the bad points in her all the time- she's no angel but I think alot of the time she doesn't know the right thing to say and do, as I think she feel's threatened by all her DIL's as she thinks because we are all well educated with god jobs she somehow feels inferior and can't relate to us, anyway the point im trying to make is that if someone who u really liked done these things it wouldn't seem as bad I don't think.

It has took quite a few yrs for me to convince my DH that his Mum can be quite hurtful in her comments and actions, and I don't blame him as I think men find it hard to find fault in their mums, but we're at a stage now where I can get upset and he will comfort and admit she is wrong.

I would def say my MIL had annoyed me more during my pg so alot of it could possibly be down to hormones. Confused

FWIW my problem is the opposite of yours where she takes no interest in my pg (our first) and at nearly 33 wks she has mentioned it only once to me despite seeing her a few times a wk, so I end up feeling like she doesn't give a shit, and just sometimes I wish she would show a bit of interest!!

sorry for hijacking your post btw and I hope your DH can offer u a bit more support Smile

Newgolddream · 09/05/2011 16:44

wamster - no-one I think has said MILs have the right to know everything about their childs lives - but Im glad Im raising my boys in such a way we can all still talk to each other. If a son wants to talk to his Mum in the same way a daughter does then theres nothign wrong with that.

LynetteScavo72 · 09/05/2011 16:44

And yes of course if my DP wants to talk to his mum during my labour then that's up to him - I would never stop him getting support from her. But the point is it's up to him! Thanks Clam btw. That's it in a nutshell really!

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cricketballs · 09/05/2011 16:44

"We didn't tell MIL about our inf problems, but we know she found out from another family member because she has mentioned it a number of times, though still acts as if she doesn't know at other times (she is neither the sharpest tool"

maybe she is being sensitive to the fact you didn't want her to know although I agree with the majority of posters that YABU as it is your DP's mum and not some stranger.

"It is indeed a boy and she has been gloating ever since." so would anyone who guessed!

"MIL came to visit at the weekend and brought something with her..." OMG fancy her buying her grandchild/DP and DIL a present - send her to prison now!

"During the weekend she told my partner that he was to phone her as soon as I went into labour ....I said that labour could go on for ages and might (!) be a very stressful time, so it would be difficult to update everyone all the time (point made, I feel!)." and it might not.......

"but he's just angry at what he sees as unjustified criticism of his mother." and are you saying that if he spoke like this about your own mum you wouldn't get upset?

"his mother, who is clearly incapable of empathy." look in the mirror....

MrSpoc · 09/05/2011 16:44

duellingfanjo - I completly understand as my wife and I lost our first baby at 5 months. I had to tell my mum and idscuss it as somethings I could not talk to my wife about.

When we got pregnant again it was very stressful even upto the point of 2nd scan my wife did not want to tell a soul but I did, I wanted to discuss it with family.

PrincessScrumpy · 09/05/2011 16:46

She sounds very excited and like a normal MIL TBH. Doesn't mean it isn't annoying. My PIL call dd their little girl (they had 2 boys). MIL also only sees connections with dd and her side of the family. DD does look like her daddy but comments like "oh she's so clever, her daddy was always very clever!" - I'm not thick and my family have a history of going to Oxford and Cambridge Unis from state schools so my family is not full of thickos! The latest thing is that my ID twin pg must come from her side of the family.... errrr, how did her side of the family affect my egg splitting?! They're not supposed to be hereditary anyway but if they were I think me being an ID twin would be more relevant! We just laugh - it helps that dh is on my side.

Can you include mil in a shopping trip to choose something for baby? I think she just wants to be involved and it might actually help if you give and take a bit, even if it is through gritted teeth.

LynetteScavo72 · 09/05/2011 16:47

Just read your post Wamster - and yes - that's what I wanted to hear. But to be fair on DP, this is all a bit stressful for him too given long history. Really want him to come home from work now so we can sort it following this reassurance!

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Alibabaandthe80nappies · 09/05/2011 16:47

I'm not saying that the MIL had a right to know, but you can understand that she might be upset to discover that other members of her family were told and she wasn't.

RunAwayWife · 09/05/2011 16:48

She is excited about a new grandchild that's all, I think after all you have been through you are slightly over sensitive, and while it will be her 3rd grandchild it will be her first by that son.

Make up with your DP as you don't want to bring a baby in to a warring home

Wamster · 09/05/2011 16:48

Sorry, but no couple should feel they have to tell mils about ivf. If they want to, fine, no problem, but they should not feel that they must.

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