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Princess Diana-do you believe she was murdered?

342 replies

ChampersPampers · 08/05/2011 11:43

I often meet people who are convinced she was 'bumped off'.
Wondered if it's only small percentage of peoples view or do alot of people believe this so called murder to be true?

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BelleDameSansMerci · 08/05/2011 18:38

Everything Chil said earlier on is spot on. I definitely do not think she was murdered. There was no point. She was pretty much a laughing stock just before her death. That sounds very, very harsh now but it's true. I was stunned at the outpouring of grief from, presumably, many of the people who'd bought the magazines and newspapers previously being rude about her.

scottishmummy · 08/05/2011 18:41

hairdresser might know hair unlikely to know espionage
unless of course its a kick ass hairdresser...cut,colour and murder.hell that is worth a big tip

lol it is certainly much better than
"where are you going your holidays"
hairdresser knows who killed diana beats shit out of that line

anything else the hairdresser know?

Longtalljosie · 08/05/2011 18:42

Hazel I hope you've got that newspaper safe, it'll eventually be worth £££...

Andrewofgg · 08/05/2011 18:46

Yes. By Elvis. And Shergar. She was shot from the grassy knoll.

Now move on.

Tortington · 08/05/2011 18:46

nope its bullshit

scottishmummy · 08/05/2011 18:48

conspiracy theories are prole food for hard of thinking

WhereYouLeftIt · 08/05/2011 19:02

FabbyChic - You only have to be an engineer to know that it is not possible to take off from the moon.

Well, my engineer DH has just refreshed my memory of just how possible it is, so would you care to provide your explanation for why you think it is not possible?

No, I do not believe Diana was murdered. Fatal car accidents happen to people who don't wear seatbelts.

razzlebathbone · 08/05/2011 19:10

Conspiracy theories such as this are actually quite insulting to people who do die in accidents. Providence takes no account of status, fame or class. To suggest the scenario which led to Diana's death was too 'convenient' or implausible infers that she was somehow worth more than an accidental death or, if you like, fate. Sadly, none of us are.

MigratingCoconuts · 08/05/2011 19:34

not to mention the pain such theories would be causing her two sons. Not only have they had to grieve for the loss of their mum but they have had to put up with this sort of ill judged, uninformed rubbish. I really do feel for them

hugglymugly · 08/05/2011 20:08

Moon landings were real - way too many non-NASA people all over the world were monitoring the radio transmissions, tracking on radar, etc. At the very least, it would have been noticed if the radio transmissions were from somewhere in the Nevada desert. (I don't understand FabbyChic's assertions - maybe there's a confusion about the moon's gravititational attraction in that 1/6th has been read as 6x?)

Diana - just an accident. As others have said, there's no plausible way her death could have been planned as there were too many variables. People have survived horrendous car crashes, so there's no way that even a planned car crash at a particular place and at a particular speed could have a guaranteed result. I do find this particular conspiracy theory disgusting, for much the same reason as razzlebathbone has said.

As for the 9/11 conspiracy theory: It was "a small faction" of the government. And the reason? "The Cold War's over. But with no clear enemy to stockpile against, the arms market's flat. But bring down a fully loaded 727 into the middle of New York City and you'll find a dozen tinpot dictators all over the world just clamoring to take responsibility, and begging to be smart-bombed."

All of what I've quoted I've copied from a transcript of the first episode of a TV show that aired in the US in the March of 2001. And that fictional story did involve a passenger plane being flown into the World Trade Center. That TV show was called The Lone Gunmen and was made by the same people who made the X-Files - probably the most influential TV show in recent times in terms of conspiracy theories.

I think there are too many people who can't distinguish fiction from fact - probably because fact doesn't have the same wow factor. And the conspiracy theories about the WTC attacks are as disgusting as the Diana conspiracy theories.

scottishmummy · 08/05/2011 20:33

conspiracy theories require too much secrecy.that no one blabs,gets drunk,has a break down,or maliciously blurts it out,writes it down or keeps incriminating "proof"

the real reasons such wacky theories are perpetrated and maintained is that stupid people believe these theories.and no amount of fact or common sense or reasoning will dissuade them

takethisonehereforastart · 08/05/2011 20:38

I love a good conspiracy theory but I never believe them.

I don't believe she was murdered. There was just no point. They were divorced. She'd had other lovers, this one was no more an embarrassment than the others. I vaguely remember reading a biography of Jackie Kennedy-Onassis that said her status when JFK died was massive but it plunged when she married Onassis. I suspect a similar thing might have happened to Diana. The Royal family have weathered worse embarrassments.

Car crashes can happen to anyone, especially when drink is involved, when seatbelts aren't worn and when the driver may have been overconfident in his abilities to outrun a pack of photographers on bikes.

Diana isn't even the first princess to be killed in a car crash. It's how Princess Grace died too. As someone else said here, high profile lives tend to lead to high profile deaths.

And I fully support the Royal family for staying in Scotland for those first few hours and days. Queen or not, the boys rightly came before any other obligation she may have had to the public weeping at the gates.

Abr1de · 08/05/2011 20:42

no.

GrendelsMum · 08/05/2011 20:55

My favourite conspiracy theory is that there is no large hadron collider, and that absolutely everyone involved is part of a huge fraud to make themselves rich.

My aunt's cleaner believes that Dickens didn't physically have time to write all the works attributed to him, but I don't know which ones she thinks were ghost written.

MigratingCoconuts · 08/05/2011 20:58

would that be the ghost of christmas past or present Hmm

JulesJules · 08/05/2011 21:18

It's impossible to take off from the moon because it isn't really there

Personally, I've never believed in it.

Also, I have superior and secret inside information which proves that it isn't really there. But I can't say any more.

edam · 08/05/2011 22:17

Grin at the ghost of Christmas past and the large hadron (hardon't?) collider theory.

Some conspiracies really are conspiracies. Gunpowder plot, Watergate, Enron, that poor man - Markov? - who was killed with a poisoned umbrella tip on Blackfriars Bridge by the KGB. And Alexander thingummy who was killed by radioative stuff (not the technical term) in London the other year.

thederkinsdame · 08/05/2011 22:24

Another theory I've heard doing the rounds is that Di faked her own death so she could slip out of the limelight and live an ordinary life amongst us plebs. Hmm You only had to look at Wills and Harry on the day of the funeral to realise no mum would subject their sons to that. I think it was a terrible accident.

ivykaty44 · 08/05/2011 22:35

Derkinsmae - I heard the same but that she was living with Elvis

Arion · 09/05/2011 06:08

Beesimo Edward II was killed in that manner (hot poker up backside) because he was gay and the manner of death mimicked the sexual acts he performed that were considered abhorrent at that time.

And no, I don't believe she was murdered.

BalloonSlayer · 09/05/2011 08:07

"Another theory I've heard doing the rounds is that Di faked her own death so she could slip out of the limelight and live an ordinary life amongst us plebs. You only had to look at Wills and Harry on the day of the funeral to realise no mum would subject their sons to that."

  • you only have to look at Princess Diana's life and personality to know there is no way she would have done that. Slip out of the limelight? Not in a million years. And I say that as someone who did like her. (Never met her of course.)
meditrina · 09/05/2011 08:24

If anyone is after the facts, there is a huge amount of sworn testimony and written evidence <a class="break-all" href="http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20090607230718/www.scottbaker-inquests.gov.uk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here in the Inquest's archive.

IreneHeron · 09/05/2011 08:55

I couldn't have put it better myself.

I usually hold no truck with conspiracy theories, they usually require such a chain of events to happen or so many people to be manipulated or involved that it strikes me as impossible. I also believe more in the ineptitude of people which can cause accidents rather than their ability to organise and cover up such elaborate conspiracies.

The only one I'm willing to believe is the Dr David Kelly one. Just a man on his own committing suicide. Easy to bump him off and hide it. Tragic whatever happened.

onagar · 09/05/2011 09:42

Sometimes the conspiracy theorists say that I don't believe them because I am so naive/trusting. That couldn't be further from the truth. I wouldn't be in the least surprised if people wanted these things done or that they'd be willing to see someone die to profit themselves. People are like that.

However, I apply the same rule to conspiracy theories that I do to religion. There has to be reason to think something happened other that "I kinda felt it might"

GypsyMoth · 09/05/2011 09:59

the inquest archive....wow,had no idea the possibility of it being staged was actually explored in court!! thought it was just conspiracy rumours amongst the public!!! was surprised to see the words 'duke of Edinburgh' and 'staged accident' in the same paragraph there!!