Princess Diana-do you believe she was murdered?

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I often meet people who are convinced she was 'bumped off'.
Wondered if it's only small percentage of peoples view or do alot of people believe this so called murder to be true?

I am not being nasty wendi

I was pointing out that your use of the word "Catholic" in that sentence looks like you are using it as an insult, as everything else in it is highly negative.

I would not suggest that you are anti-Catholic, as you have stated you are not. However that particular post of yours does make it appear that you are anti-Catholic, so I wanted to draw it to your attention.

Balloon PC wouldn't have a claim to the throne at all if people hadn't been bitterly anti Catholic in the first place.

And I'm firmly in the camp of not wanting a tampon for a king (especially not a used one).

I've heard it said, by some who knew Diana, that if there was any foul play Dodi was the likely target and Diana largely irrelevant. Dodi allegedly was a marked man.

By the way, did FabbyChic ever come back with an explanation for why it's impossible to take off from the moon?

Not as far as I know, Snorbs. Maybe she got abducted by aliens...and is trapped on the moon

Damn. That's really going to bug me now. Would her argument be the difficulties in getting a rocket engine to ignite in a vacuum, or the subtleties of managing liquid propellants in zero- and low-g environments, or concerning the apparent lack of fuel storage space in the lunar module, or the risk that Tiny Clanger might get in the way during take off?

Enquiring minds need to know!

Fabby might be enjoying 'A Grand Day Out' - hope she brings back lots of lovely cheese.

Back to topic: there's nothing new under the sun and anything is possible.

Maybe it was was the work of dark forces?

My reference (mistakenly - and I have apologised for that) to Camilla being a Catholic was not meant in a derogitory way. It was meant as a reference to our national intolerance toward Catholicism as a faith, since Henry VIII's split with Rome (Mr Cromwell's doing, I think) in order to marry Anne B. We then had some burning of Catholics, some burning of Protestants (under Mary Tudor), some religious toleration (under Elizabeth I) and I think that (though I may need correcting) our last Catholic Queen on the throne was wife to Charles II, another in the style of Eliz I in his toleration of whatever happens behind closed doors is OK. After that, Parliament said ...... no more Catholics on the throne. Assuming Camilla had "become" Catholic to marry Parker Bowles, it would then have been unconstitutional for her to be Charles' Queen. But she apparently isn't. Though her husband and children were. So, that's convenient then. I find it tremendously hard to believe that, Parker Bowles' being a strong Catholic family, did not require Miss Camilla to convert in order to achieve her marriage into their family but, I stand corrected. Anti-catholic? No. I am not. I don't give a hoot what religion you are or aren't. I was raised CofE. Have Irish Catholic ancestry on my dad's side and Jewish on my mums. I am not a biggot.

I have little time for the Royal family. I read very early on in this thread from one MNer about the death of George V being given a lethal injection in order to ensure his death hit the headlines in the morning papers. Tidy. I noted also the post which said that one young boy (forget who - though may have been George v's son) was "allowed" to die he being what appeared to be autistic. I don't put anything past them. The Royals and all their entourage are fantastic at spin..... Only they could come out of two World Wars with Germany (being of recent German descent), change their name to "Windsor" and badabadabing!! They're ENGLISH! Excellent!

Thanks JimmyChooChoo..... and others. Nice to know I may not be the only poster banned from this thread for giving my opinion.

No-one really knows for certain. No-one.
I believe she was, but I don't expect to be ridiculed for that!

Oh sorry....forgot James II - who was "asked to go" He wanted to bring England back to the "true Faith" after Charles II died!!

"Nice to know I may not be the only poster banned from this thread for giving my opinion."

If you've been "banned from this thread", how come you posted that message?

Or are you just adding a bit of drama because not everyone is treating your wacky conspiracy theories carefully and cogently argued opinions with the respect you feel you automatically deserve?

I didn't give a whaky conspiracy theory....

Respect me, don't respect me? It's up to you.

I tend to respect others opinions, generally. Might not agree with them but, heck, it's their opinion and they're entitled to it. Where possible, I try not to judge other's views as "wacky/mad/bonkers" or get personal.

I feel my opinions should be treated with automatic respect? No. You have me wrong there. But, what I do think is, all people deserve to be able to put forward their thoughts and opinions without being ridiculed, just because it doesn't fit with the general consensus.

And I shall end it there, for my part. I stick by my opinions as stated.

And my goodness, what a nasty bunch some of you seem to be.

A nasty bunch? You say that like its a bad thing

Ooh who's been banned?

I didn't know that MN was so pro-Windsor.

If you give me a large enough budget, the help of both the French and UK governments, some engineers and Hollywood special effects people I can recreate the accident.

It could take 2-3 attempts though which might take some explaining.

Thing is even if it worked first time you couldn't be sure that it was going to. And this is one of the things that conspiracy lovers don't see. There were much easier and more reliable ways to do it if you wanted to. Ways that didn't involve telling 100s of people.

Just off the top of my head I can think of some. You could put a car bomb on her route. If you put it outside the embassy of some middle eastern country you'd probably get some terrorist group claiming responsibility and she would be an unfortunate, but random, casualty. I expect she would have gone to lots of embassy parties anyway so it would be plausible.

A sniper would work too. Throw in some death threats written in crayon about her being the anti-christ and that would be accepted. You'd only need to trust one guy to do the deed and you could even arrange his death later to be on the safe side.

Wow !! this "every day story of country folk" could run and run !! The cast and plots are endless !! and that is just this century !! Edward VII and his mistresses: his eldest son 'eddie' died quite conveniently amid rumours of him being Jack the Ripper and/or having syphillis: he bequethed his fiance Princess Mary of Teck to his brother - they became George V and Queen Mary: this couple decided they did not like being German Saxe Coburg Gothas - so changed to Windsor: they hid away their son Prince John: It was George V who was helped by his doctor Lord Dawson of Penn, to slide off the plate at Sandringham in order to headline in the morning paper: Then Edward VIII and Wallis friends of the the Reich: brother George died in a air crash (lots of conspiricies here): George VI and Queen Elizabeth: with daughters Elizabeth and Margaret - and so to the present day: Prince Phillip numerous "confidentes" dubious friends and no verbal control button) now Mountbatten(formerly Battenburg) his real name was Schleswig-Holstein-Sunderburg-Glucksburg: if one doesn't like it, change it, simples. And Charles twiddling his fingers and waiting in line: With a background like this no wonder he wants to be a Tampon and/or live in Cami's knickers !! We should be thankful the gene pool has been extended by Diana Spencer and will be eventually by Kate Middleton.

Thank you Greatgran....!! What a bunch they are, eh?

onagar: on your splendid list of who would have to be complicit, you missed out the role of the vehicles following her in chase that night (required as part of the plot to ensure reckless speed), so you have to include the multinational paparazzi pack as conspirators too.

I think she was. Too many unanswered questions. She said to the press while she was holidaying on the Al Fayed's boat that the next thing she announced would really shock them. Could that have been a pregnancy? Maybe Rosa Monckton was asked to stop this speculation. The mystery vehicle, the embalming, etc. Mr Al Fayed has courage to speak his mind but naturally he is dismissed as a lunatic just as Diana was when she told the truth. I am amazed how many people have just accepted that it was a tragic accident - possibly it was but very possibly it wasn't.

wendi I can't figure out if you are having a go at me (when I haven't commented on anything you've said) or trying to portray us as two people whoare being picked on ofr having opinions.

I was just commenting on the strangeness of being told I have "issues" when I commented on someone's turn of phrase. I don't feel especially got-at.

Orm are we pro-Windsor? Or just anti-silly-conspiracy-theory? Personally I think if she had been murdered we would have found out already because I don't think that the supposed perpetrators are capable of this level of cover-up. Not exactly pro-Windsor, but not pro 'she was murdered' either. :)

Onagar, indeed. One small car bomb and a fake note from the Really Real IRA claiming responsibility and the job's done. One person could do the whole thing and even if it failed you could leak a "Secret service thwart IRA attempt to kill Diana!" story to the press and everyone comes out smelling of roses.

By contrast, a conspiracy to cause a car crash by tampering with it sufficiently so the accelerator, brakes and steering could all be taken over to cause it to go off the road in a spot where the radio signals controlling it couldn't be guaranteed to work, faking the autopsy of the driver to make it look like he'd been drinking, faking the bar receipts and CCTV footage that showed he was drinking, paying off the paramedics to get them to take ages to get to the hospital etc etc etc That's a lot of people who could blab.

One other thought about Diana's diary entry predicting that she'd be killed in a car crash. If she was so sure that there were people at work who could and might make that happen, why didn't she wear her seat belt? I mean, if I seriously thought someone would tamper with any car I was a passenger in I'd make damn sure I was properly strapped in.

Luvviemum, just a suggestion but when you see an enormously long thread might it not be an idea to read the whole thread first and digest what has been said before you launch in and reply to the OP? There have been lots of answers to all the points you make (over and over again, actually).

meditrina, it's starting to remind me of the Italian job with all those minis rushing around in traffic :)

LondonMother, you may be right. However, as far as I'm aware, there is no MN law to state that you cannot respond to the original point without reading several hundred other posts. I wanted to put on record that I believe she was murdered and that's what I've done. Just because people have already spoken of the points I mention, doesn't mean I'm satisfied with the explanation.

luvviemum: are you saying Rosa Monckton committed perjury?