Princess Diana-do you believe she was murdered?

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I often meet people who are convinced she was 'bumped off'.
Wondered if it's only small percentage of peoples view or do alot of people believe this so called murder to be true?

I do believe that is a possibility Meditrina. As the Queen said to Paul Burrell "There are dark forces at work of which we have no knowledge"

The Royal Wedding and this thread have renewed my interest in the Royal Family.

I have just watched the infamous Panorama interview on You Tube. I'd forgotten how calculating and manipulative she became following her separation from the Prince of Wales. She comes across as a slightly more articulate version of Peter Andre. She knew exactly what she was doing.

I recall the press had begun to turn on her and had it not been for her death, I believe that the general public opinion would have too.

I do not believe she was murdered. However, I think it probably came as something of a relief to the Royal Family. That said, I'm sure they wouldn't have wished the grief caused to the then young Princes.

SERIOUS QUESTION - Henri Paul was supposedly VERY MUCH over the limit. And this is why most of you say it was just a tragic accident. So presumably he smelled of alcohol. Why did they even get in the car with him then? Her security guard was in the passenger seat, and would have known immediately if he was drunk/behaving strangely/driving erratically, and would have stopped him from driving. That was his job.

According to the Paget report, Trevor Rees-Jones knew that Henri Paul had been drinking because Paul had drunk a couple of Ricards in the Ritz hotel bar right in front of Rees-Jones and he wasn't particularly happy about it. So Rees-Jones wouldn't have been surprised to smell booze on Paul's breath because he already knew he had been drinking. He just didn't know how much.

Quite apart from the alcohol level in Paul's blood there is a lot of evidence that Paul had an ongoing alcohol problem. He'd been prescribed drugs specifically to deal with alcohol problems. There was a stack load of booze in his flat.

In my personal experience of dealing with people with alcohol problems, someone who has history of heavy drinking can be very good at hiding being half-pissed, particularly if you don't know them very well. My ex could knock back a bottle of wine and undoubtedly be well over the drink-drive limit but you'd be hard pressed to tell from general demeanour.

As for why Rees-Jones didn't pull the plug on the whole operation, his employer was Mohammed Al Fayed. Dodi told him that the plans for that evening had been approved by his dad and, at that point, there was a very strong requirement that said plans went ahead. The Paget report makes it clear that it took a lot of persuasion to get Dodi to even agree to having Rees-Jones in the car at all. If Rees-Jones had kicked up a stink about what seems very likely was Dodi's personal choice of driver, it seems likely that Rees-Jones would've been the one turfed out of the car and not Henri Paul.

Have you read the Paget Report?

What I never understood was why they got into that situation at all. What was so dreadful about being photographed by the paps? They could either have come out the front, smiled and waved and let the paps get their pics, and gone on their way. Or they could have stayed in the Ritz for dinner. I just don't see what was such a big deal. It was just cameras, not machine guns.

Another thing was that if they were heading to the apartment on the Champs Elysées, they should have turned right instead of going down into that tunnel. That would have been the quickest way.

That point has puzzled me too , CarefulWithThatAxeEugene.

If it was a case of 'Home Henri, and don't spare the horses', why on earth would they have overshot the Champs Elysee and travelled via the Pont d'Alma?

As I understand it, they'd had dinner in the Ritz so why not stay there for the night, particularly as Diana was scheduled to return home the following day?

Could the decision to leave the Ritz have anything to do with the allegation that the Phoney Pharoah had/has the place bugged? But if this allegation is true, wouldn't Dodi assume that his Paris apartment provided by his father was also wired for sound?

I wonder what the history books (presupposing books haven't been rendered obsolete or burned, or access to knowledge restricted) will make of it?

And now coveniently Rees-Jones, narrowly escaping face transplant, doesn't remember FA.

The lady is dead. Her children have made peace with this and how she died.

Isn't that enough?

Paget investigated the question of why they decided to go back to the apartment. Apparently the reason was that Diana knew that they were leaving Paris the following day and wanted to pack. Al Fayed claims that the real reason was because Dodi was going to propose but he has made a ridiculous number of completely absurd allegations with no evidence whatsoever so I don't put much credence on his claims.

The answer to why they chose the route they did then that is harder to answer because the only person who knows for sure died when he lost control of the speeding car he was driving. But it's far from implausible that he decided to go a different way to try to throw the paps off the scent. You don't need a vast conspiracy to explain it.

Have you read the Paget Report? It does cover all this.

I have been reading up on Rosa Monckton mainly to find 'smart alec' things to say about her relatives who are very establishment and I came across the story about her miscarried baby girl and how Princess Diane help her through the ordeal. Then I thought you know what B time to let it lie you never really know what goes on behind closed doors. I now think those girls were true friends to each other last week I thought RM was a planted by the establishment to keep tabs on Princess Diane

We'll never know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth IMO

beesimo of course they were friends! Diana was RM's daughter's godmother!

The book I read - which was very measured I thought - about Diana describes her in the time leading up to her death enjoying her relationship with Dodi but not planning for it to become permanent. She said the same thing to several friends about marriage/engagement and pregnancy: "I need that like a rash on my face" - one of her favourite sayings.

She knew that most, if not all, of her power and/or appeal lay in the role of the spurned, heartbroken, rejected Virgin bride of Charles, bravely carrying on for the sake of her children - the Virgin Mary-like mother of the future king. (Despite her affairs, that is how a lot of people saw her, especially after her death, see this thread for proof.) A lot of interest in her would abruptly abate should she marry and live happily ever after with a new man. If she had another child with him the spell would be well and truly broken. Therefore she would have to be sure it was 100% what she wanted before she would consider it. She was fond of Dodi and having fun but they had only just met, she wasn't going to rush into anything. Look what happened last time she married a bloke she had had 11 dates with!

I also remember reading that she had realised that Dodi was going to buy her a ring but had decided (possibly after talking with Paul Burrell so maybe it isn't true) to treat it as a friendship ring and not an engagement ring. Dodi, perhaps was hoping for the latter, and it would only be human nature to confide those hopes - to his father. It may well be true that Dodi was planning to propose but it doesn't mean for a minute that she would have accepted. But Mr Al Fayed, with a father's pride, probably believes that "of course she would have married my lovely son," so his claims they were getting engaged may well be true to him.

wendi the 'tampon' convo taped between Charles & Camilla said it all really - she added that 'I hope the (London ambulance) strike carries on so Andrew's kept in London' meaning that they could carry on bonking in JillyCooperland. Never mind sick ppl in London needing ambulances and the Army having to step in, commanded by Andrew PB.

And ppl are fine with the idea that this twunt will become King!
You get the living conditions you put up with I guess. Glad I live in the civilised French republic !

Folks here don't seem to waste much time debating the accident cos they find the whole concept of the British monarchy anachronistic and irrelevant, a waste of time & money.

Off with their heads !

ANd, of course, they have the 'civilised' benefit of Carla and Sarkozy.

Carla sure beats Camilla on the world stage and Sarko was elected + won't be there forever. Wouldn't trade them for Gladys n Fred, merci neanmoins !

Carla is very beautiful and classy, but not a woman of great moral integrity. SHe had the morals of an alley cat.

Carla is beautiful. Classy? No. Agree with Abr1de

Camilla is not beautiful or classy and had the morals of an alley cat.