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To find it quite refreshing when someone is politically incorrect?

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pollypopsocks · 06/05/2011 21:04

I do find it refreshing, I don't mean when they are a complete arsehole, just when they don't tread on eggshells, aibu?

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BabyDubsEverywhere · 07/05/2011 00:48

I know the where the word originates, but tinker round here means a small mischevious child, its affectionate. How can that really be offensive? Some people like to be offended i think.

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Ilythia · 07/05/2011 08:44

No seeker, I swear it is true, he is early twenties and we work together in education field so I keep telling him off out of reflex (as I would for a child).
He even puts it as his status (as in 'over ran by half an hour, x is so gay') and his friends (gay and straight) all 'lol' at it. They all use it verbally as well.
It does bemuse me, and I have asked him why he sys it but he says it's 'just a word' and I shouldn't get hung up on itHmm

Ilythia · 07/05/2011 08:48

oh, and dd's use spider, we used baby.

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Ilythia · 07/05/2011 10:32

quite seeker. I think it's awful that a gay person uses 'gay' as an insult, it's not ironic, or 'reclaiming the word' or any of that shit, it's just not.

I always pull people up on using words, and what gets me is when they don't even know what it means. A teenager called a friend a mong and a flid in my presence and I told him not to use those words. He asked why and I explained exactly what they meant, along with a few other words on the same theme that are unnaceptable.
In his defence he was then horrified at what he had said (and so were his friends) and promised not to use them again when there are plenty of non offensive rude words to use HmmGrin.
There is a danger of us being so PC that we don't think to explain to children why words are not nice and just pretend they don't need exist and so they use them out of ignorance.

onceamai · 07/05/2011 10:34

Times move on - I'm 50 and I had a golliwog Shock and loved him dearly - he was called Sambo Shock [schock]. It seems absolutely dreadful looking back.

squeakytoy · 07/05/2011 10:55

Our cat was black and called Tinker.

What must my parents have been thinking... Grin

Ciske · 07/05/2011 10:56

These days it's actually fashionable to be politically incorrect. If I really want to shock people, I say that I DON'T feel immigrants are scroungers coming to sponge off the state, but people like us looking for a better future, who should be treated with respect and dignity. And that most muslims are not radical terrorists out to destroy western society, but normal people trying to get by in life and raise their children well, just like the rest of the UK.

That usually has me fighting off debates for quite a while.

Kittytickle · 07/05/2011 11:01

I am forever (as part of my job) asking people's ethnic group. People will often say "British". When I ask what (white, black, aisian, mixed race) race you can hear offence in some voices, that I have "accused" them of being anything other than white. I also get the old folks saying, "White, very much so". More than once or twice. How can one be "very" white as opposed to "white". What the fuck, you racist fuckers.....

Also having to stop my 7 year old DS saying "gay" for describing something negatively. I also stop him doing that Chinese Japanese thing too. He will be politically correct basically when he grows up if it kills me.

But I like Jimmy Carr and Pub Landlord for the irreverence, so I don't know where I am at.

If the joke is on the person being un PC rather than the group joked about fine, but otherwise it is very tiring if genuinely meant whether by the general public and my seven year old.

This is good too, whilst we are on the subject:

www.thedailymash.co.uk/images/stories/racist_nan.jpg

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 07/05/2011 11:07

suncottage... That's a heck of a post... it sounds very honest. We can't help how we feel and it's difficult to emphathise what we don't understand, but it sounds as if you're doing your best to be sympathetic.

libelulle · 07/05/2011 11:08

I knew that rhyme as 'catch a knicker by the toe', which suggests at some point in my childhood someone must have used the racist version to me, but guess it backfired on them as my mental image of the rhyme is of someone holding a pair of pants aloft in the breeze.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 07/05/2011 11:10

I get the feeling, with threads like this, that people generally just like a bit of a 'ruck', love a 'thread row' and this is kind of toe-dipping to see what the feeling is.

Personally, I think that you can hurt people just as well with vile, non-specific words designed to hurt and inflame, as blue-touchpaper words. For me, I can't really see the difference between them, they're all designed to offend, and they do. Hmm

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 07/05/2011 11:14

Kittytickle... Isn't that very hypocritical of you? You enjoy programmes that are most definitely insulting to may sectors of the public, yet you take umbrage at older persons who make their daft points about being 'very white'?

You're not on your own, I just picked your post but I don't see how you can get so irrate really.

ScousyFogarty · 07/05/2011 11:19

I dont believe in saying things which I dont believe in...(anyone can start a fight.)

Saying what you believe is usually ok; unless you are being very hurtful to vulnerable people. Or even spreading false information.

People say all yorkshire people are blunt and outspoken. Not true, there are all sorts born in yorkshire

Its a rumour put about by freddie Trueman and Harvey Smith.

edam · 07/05/2011 11:27

hmm, Bald, I think that last time I saw mention of yan, tan, tethera it was at the home for ruined buildings in Sussex - the one where they rescue old houses that someone is knocking down. And that no. 5 was 'pimp' - see here. Although that could be Cumbrian and your version from another part of the country... (I was wrong about no. 4 going by the Cumbrian version.)

valiumbandwitch · 07/05/2011 11:44

Wow, suncottage, believe it or not I have TWICE worked with post-operative transexuals and neither of them was as hard work as 'liz'!!

'Nicole' did make us chuckle when she insisted on having the ladies umbrella. The rest of us all just reached in and grabbed one but she made HR order another lady's one. That kind of thing. I guess it's understandable. Even though this employee had had a sex change, ONE person anonymously complained and said she couldn't use the ladies' toilets so she then had to travel two floors down to the disabled toilet every time she wanted to go to the toilet. But she bore it with very good grace imo.

Later, when I started work at another company, I was told "you are not going to belieeeeeeve this but SamANTHA is a trannie". I was just 'oh. right. I worked with a post-op transexual in my last place too". I wasn't as shocked as they thought I'd be I think.

ScousyFogarty · 07/05/2011 11:44

Lincolnshire has some odd pronunciations.

In rural areas they pronounce BACON....YACKON

BitOfFun · 07/05/2011 11:47

Are you a scouser yourself, Gab? I didn't picture you as one.

Kittytickle · 07/05/2011 11:48

LWINTW, I am not irrate really, but they are all older people who do this. I don't have an issue with age group. I never speak back to them about being "very much so" (white), but I can say it on here.

As for the comedy thing: I don't take myself too seriously: some of it is aimed at me. It amuses me. I think the joke is on the comedians (hamming up their ignorance/prejudice) rather than the people mentioned by them. Sarah Silverman is another good example.

But I am with you on the not wanting to hurt people. I hope I can express what I want about my "racist" encounters during my job, but not hurt anyone.....

PiousPrat · 07/05/2011 11:52

Pimp is Welsh for 5, which made me chuckle in a possibly very un-PC manner every time I stood in the post office line and heard the call for cashier number 5 repeated in Welsh. It would be interesting if it was also 5 in old Cumbrian (which is what I think you were all getting at? Apologies if I have misundrstood) given the distance between Wales and Cumbria and how many local dialects there are that don't have pimp as 5.

electra · 07/05/2011 11:53

yabu bigotry of any sort makes me see red Angry

Refreshing?? What you mean (I presume) is that you feel a little better about your own prejudices when you hear someone else who has the cheek courage to voice theirs.

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