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To find it quite refreshing when someone is politically incorrect?

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pollypopsocks · 06/05/2011 21:04

I do find it refreshing, I don't mean when they are a complete arsehole, just when they don't tread on eggshells, aibu?

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JamieAgain · 06/05/2011 22:14

polly - those are interesting examples. Fair do's you know and love your grandad, but in the wider world, if you are about other people then you try to not give offence, and I think half-caste is deemed offensive to lots of people Wiki says it so it must be true

The second example - I'm assuming you mention that shop assistant was East European because her use of language was maybe less socially subtle. It's interesting if so - maybe if English had not been her second language you would have found her more rude.

wannaBe · 06/05/2011 22:23

our PTA were actually asked, by a muslim parent, to change the name of the Christmas disco because it was offensive to muslims. Before that I always thought that sort of thing was an urban legend, but I was there and I witnessed it and it happened. We told them no, though.

pollypopsocks · 06/05/2011 22:24

I don't find it offensive if someone calls me half caste (through ignorance, not malice) or says chinese people are business minded, because in my experience on the most part they are.
Yes I do find a lot of Eastern Europeans to be less 'socially subtle' than English, not that that is a bad thing.

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HalfPastWine · 06/05/2011 22:30

OP. YANBU

I also managed to shut up quick in the hydro pool when drying DGSs toes and saying, 'this little piggy went to market etc' as there was an asian family in the cubicle next to us. Feel a bit resentful that this oldy worldy tradition is now a no no, but I certainly wouldnt like to offend anyone.

WTF

edam · 06/05/2011 22:33

The ELC thing actually seems to be that they took the pig out so they could sell the same set around the world - not that it was only intended for Muslim countries. Cheaper and easier to make the set the same everywhere. But stupid. Companies just have to live with the fact that they have to tweak their products for different markets (even ones that piggies go to).

I've heard the 'thought shower' shit before. The British Epilepsy Association says it's nonsense. And I agree. The fact my brain is a little weird is no reason to ban anyone else from talking about brains, FFS!

edam · 06/05/2011 22:36

I was once told that 'eeny meenie minie mo' was racist. Was shocked and very puzzled. It was news to me that some people apparently used the 'n' word in the rhyme. My parents would never have dreamed of using such a word so I always knew it as 'catch a baby by its toe'.

MrsBananaGrabber · 06/05/2011 22:44

I do think what was once considered PC will become commonplace iykwim. My grandad was horribly racist despite having mixed race grandchildren, I knew that he was wrong and my children would never even hear that sort of language, times change, language changes.

The current word getting on my nerves is GAY, as in something crap, all the kids at my DS's school use it, my DS's use it (and get in trouble for it) I try to explain that maybe someone in their class will be gay and it could be hurtful, not being PC, just raising children to consider others.

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BoysAreLikeDogs · 06/05/2011 22:45

yy edam

also IIRC eenie meenie minie mo is a remnant of ancient european speech

edam · 06/05/2011 22:49

I prefer BALD's account - maybe a European rhyme travelled to the States where racists turned it nasty?

Reminds me of yan, tan, tethera, pethera and all those ancient counting systems. (Is is pump or pimp for five?)

onceamai · 06/05/2011 22:51

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florencedougal · 06/05/2011 22:53

i love the unpc jokes that whizz round by text when something occurs, some people are really quick witted!

I dont believe in having to keep up with the "in" words to describe things - one week its this, the next its that. Who cares, everyone knows what is meant

BoysAreLikeDogs · 06/05/2011 22:58

pip, edam

five is pip

BoysAreLikeDogs · 06/05/2011 23:04

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qo · 06/05/2011 23:16

Funniest quote of the thread = dishonest pigs offend me more

Excellent Grin

Ilythia · 06/05/2011 23:46

THe only person I have heard use the term 'gay' to describe something as bad, is my uber gay bff, weirdly.

this little piggy being racist is cracking me up though, really? I mean really?

The only pc stuff I worry about it no accidentally calling a welsh person british....Wink

wook · 07/05/2011 00:07

It's always most refreshing when someone is sexist, racist or homphobic IMHO. And it fair brightens up my whole day when people take the piss out of mongs or spazzers.
What is so serious about ignorance, inequality and hatred anyway? It's not as if people are killed for the colour of their skin, beaten up or verbally abused for their sexuality or because they have some kind of "special need". The way women blather on about being victims of sexism these days, you'd think they were raped and assaulted just for happening to be women, or that they did better in school (in those parts of the world where they are deemed fit to have an education) and yet still made up less than half of all MPs, company directors, etc etc. As if!
People these days are just so po faced and humourless. You know the BNP? They are absolutely SO refreshing. They're not afraid to have a bit of a laugh.
This PC stuff, what a joke. Life's too short to be treading on eggshells all the time- why can't we just call a spade a spade?

Ilythia · 07/05/2011 00:11

careful wook, you have to call them a shovel now.

But I agree with all that, Forget PC nonsense labels, people aren't being PC, they are just not being prejudiced.

BitOfFun · 07/05/2011 00:30

Good post, wook.

PaWithABra · 07/05/2011 00:39

eeney

meeney

miney

mo

catch a ............

by the toe

if it squeels

let it go

eeny , meany , miney , mo.

whats the .......... in your history ?

BabyDubsEverywhere · 07/05/2011 00:40

...tinker

seeker · 07/05/2011 00:41

I can register a first for me - the first time "gay" to mean crap is the word of choice for a gay person. If this is true - the gay person concerned must feel very anzxious about being accepted in the straight world. But I suspect it's just another "one of my best feriends is black" type comment.

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PaWithABra · 07/05/2011 00:44

The term "tinker" became used in British society to refer to marginalized persons. In this later sense, "tinker" may mean:

* Irish traveller, a nomadic or itinerant people of Irish origin
* Scottish traveller, a nomadic or itinerant people of Scottish origin
* Gypsy.

racist !

cant be too careful