To be shocked at how many mners seem to condone smacking

[Cat98]

I am not talking about people who have smacked in anger and post saying "oh no, I lost it and smacked my DC" - everyone makes mistakes and no-one is perfect! I am talking about those who use smacking as a considered, pre meditated form of punishment/discipline. I know this was discussed a lot on another thread a few days ago, and I was pretty much told "each to their own" - but I am genuinely surprised that it seems to be a popular method here?

Well said Wanksock, from a fellow Scot.
If the smacking brigade took the time to look at ANY research done into smacking they would find similiar results. There aren't ANY studies as far as I know that condone it or recommend it. But the people who hit their kids choose to ignore this and instead fall back on their lame arguments -

It's their right
It's necessary as a last resort
It never did them any harm
It's necessary to teach children about danger

All of which are utterly invalid, as has been proved on this thread.

Well said Sickof

Sickof, I don't take back or apologise for any of my comments. I don't care if you think me rude or aggressive.

You have no right to call anyone abusive. You hit your kids.

Ultimately though, it's not me that will lose out by not convincing you, is it?It's your poor kids, who can't defend themselves.

So Glitter what do you think when you read that link? Regarding the majority of parents not wanting a ban? Are you still so right now you know you are in a minority?

by that token Glitterball, you have no right to call me abusive either, since you have been abusing me and many others on this thread.
As I said about 4 pages ago, lets just agree to disagree, and leave the personal abuse out of it, its not helping anyone really.

I think this one should of been a simple
Do you think it is resonable to smack your child/ren as a last resort
YES/NO answer only :)
It would of been alot nicer and people could of just come on and seen the results :)

Sorry, what was the proof offered that smacking did in fact do me harm? Must have missed that gem.

Well said Sickof

Glitter, I think you will find that sickof has every right to call you on your behaviour. The same as you do on hers.

How about this...You have no right to claim a child is being abused because you openly behave in a abusive and bullying manner on a public forum to other posters, yet deny this is what you are doing. Ergo your opinions on abuse must be called into question?

Wanksock, I've already stopped the car and put the seat belt back on 3 times.

Glitterballmama, I've explained again why she needs to keep her seat belt on.

K999, I've tried that already but she's not interested in the fruit, toys or tv when she gets home, or anything else.

Now what? I'm genuinely interested in what people would do.

Gemsy I fear you're right

Gemsy83

Why do you keep being offensive?

Well observed Jaqueline. It is just like a child who cannot articulate their views having the screaming ab dabs and yelling 'well you all smell of poo' to get their 'point' across.

Damn it sickof beat me to it

hahahahaha Osama- did you really just say that?
You are comedy gold- how much are tickets?

Gemsy, your link is two years old.I repeat, smacking will be banned eventually. You and your abusive like are a dying breed.

And I've just realised that you are now harping on about people having sex with their fathers. And calling people Cuckoo. I see.Oh my god.You are actually completely mad. I should have realised this earlier in the thread. Gorgeous, you call us loonies? This woman is now wittering on about people fucking their dads!!!

I'm off.

Keep telling yourselves that those who are against smacking are loonies, I'm afraid the reality is that those of you who hit your kids are the ones who need to take a serious look at yourselves. I pity your kids and hope you see reason eventually.

AllDirections lol i think its more about what you would do but ...........

Me i would stop the car and say "O deer we cannot go now because you are not wearing you seatbelt and the car cnt move :)

That works on my niece lol :)

Alldirections I had all 3 of mine doing that,nothing worked bar saying hollering they'd die and end up through the windscreen or cause a severe car crash(me being unable to swerve off continuously onto the hard shoulder in order to carry out a seatbelt safety chat with juggernauts up my arse).

Is that better than a tap? I doubt psychologists would say it was but I'm thinking over the next 18 years I'll have countless situations when I don't follow through the ideal parenting must do list?

Well personally Alldirections, I would take her out of the car and beat her bloody, but then I'm a child abuser pro smacking, so probably not the best person to ask.
Seriously though (as my above comment clearly isnt serious), its a difficult one, and I wouldnt like to deal with myself, so cant really offer advice.

Jacqueline, I'm afraid I'm not being bullying, just standing up for what is right. Sickof knows this but is lashing back out at me to get away from the fact that she thinks hitting is ok, which she must know deep down is wrong. As all of you must.