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To be shocked at how many mners seem to condone smacking

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Cat98 · 03/05/2011 13:47

I am not talking about people who have smacked in anger and post saying "oh no, I lost it and smacked my DC" - everyone makes mistakes and no-one is perfect! I am talking about those who use smacking as a considered, pre meditated form of punishment/discipline. I know this was discussed a lot on another thread a few days ago, and I was pretty much told "each to their own" - but I am genuinely surprised that it seems to be a popular method here?

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K999 · 03/05/2011 22:23

Gemsy, IMO smacking is unnecessary. So yes, you have hit them unneccessarly.

sickoftheholidays · 03/05/2011 22:24

glitterball - I should have guessed really by your name, you are clearly a drama queen. Yes its absolutely for the good of my children, and for their future that I very occasionally use a single smack to prevent serious damage/injury when no other reasonable option is available.
If you find that revolting, I'm sorry, but its a fact of life that not everyone parents in the same way, you just have to deal with it.

Gemsy83 · 03/05/2011 22:24

And IMO it ISNT- so I havent! What kind of a limp argument is that?

rachie2011 · 03/05/2011 22:24

im afraid i may have to of course you have to control and raise your children right at the end of the day
well unless i want to raise another child that bites and kicks other children in the playground and runs wild round everyone else
There are rules in this life whether or not you want them or like them and many teachers are in the same boat today with children that are goin wild its very sad :(

glitterballmama · 03/05/2011 22:25

But Gemsy, it is never necessary to hit your child.

The law is outdated. Sadly, it's parents like you that stop it being overturned, who are so outraged at the thought of their 'right' to hit their child being affected that they forget their responsibilities.

It is illegal in most other European countries, plus a few others. We are sadly behind in the UK, but the anti smacking lobby is not going to give up and it will be banned eventually....and in years to come, our grandchildren will not be able to believe that it was once ok to hit children, in the same way we cannot believe that a couple of generations ago it was ok to hit your wife.

cunexttuesonline · 03/05/2011 22:25

Gemsy - it may not be illegal to smack YET but it's a strong possibility that it will BECOME illegal. Does that not give you some clue that it's an undesirable thing to do?

As I have said before, the mums against smacking in this thread are getting quite heated and I guess it's because it is upsetting to hear of children being smacked and you DEFENDING YOUR RIGHT TO DO IT. Not because we are nasty bullies, quite the opposite, we want to protect children from violence FFS.

Listen to yourself. You said you would not cause unnecessary pain - errrrmmm what is this thread about? it is not NECESSARY to smack your children, you don't have to do it.

Osama - thank you :)

cunexttuesonline · 03/05/2011 22:26

woops X posted with loads of you. Great minds and all that!

glitterballmama · 03/05/2011 22:26

I am not the one who hits my child in the supermarket.I'm not a drama queen, just genuinely disgusted by your parenting methods and your creepy attempts to justify them. You know, look back a few generations and you'll find men who argued that hitting their wives was for their own good, to keep them in line, you know.

K999 · 03/05/2011 22:27

Not wearing seat belts used to be legal, forcing your wife to have sex didn't used to be classed as rape etc etc.....times change....the law does not operate in a vacum.

glitterballmama · 03/05/2011 22:27

rachie-
well unless i want to raise another child that bites and kicks other children in the playground and runs wild round everyone else

Um...are you actually from the 1950's? Who said that children who aren't smacked do that? How odd. Back to your Daily Mail!

glitterballmama · 03/05/2011 22:28

Well said, wanksock!

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rachie2011 · 03/05/2011 22:29

I think its getting abit mad now everyone has different views so thats that Im sure most of you were smacked as children i was a think no less of my mother and father today because i can not imagine what i would be like if i wasnt .
It is horrible and no one will say the want to but sometimes its the last resort people have to go to .

Jaquelinehyde · 03/05/2011 22:29

Hahahahahaha oh my goodness you lot are making me laugh.

springbokdoc · 03/05/2011 22:30

Oh enough now. I'm heading upstairs to give my ds a dreamfeed. Nobody is going to change their minds. Nobody is going to give an inch and admit that if we met up in real life we would be more understanding of each other and realise where everybody is coming from. Nope we're going to bitch backwards and forwards knowing that only the people who agree with us are right. So there.

Gemsy83 · 03/05/2011 22:30

The government are NOT INTERESTED in making smacking illegal and have made that clear many times! If it disgusts you that much move to a country where parents who raise their children in such a way are treated as the CRIMINALS you see them as!

sickoftheholidays · 03/05/2011 22:31

glitterball, you make by far the most offensive comments I have ever read on mumsnet. There really is no justification for calling anyone creepy, or some of the other unpleasant names you have called me and others. I have tried not to become too heated in this debate, we clearly disagree on this aspect of parenting, and I think we should just agree to disagree.

rachie2011 · 03/05/2011 22:31

glitterballmama

Truley you are not a grown up if you say stupid comments like that..
I know where i work thank you and know my students and parents and i see the difference i was just giving my view there is now need to insult me

osamabinladensmrs · 03/05/2011 22:32

GORGEOUSX

FFS, are you for real, seriously. Just for you only. I am not really married to Osama Bin Laden. How could you really believe that. This is most bizzarr.

rachie2011 · 03/05/2011 22:32

should i say No need :)

Gemsy83 · 03/05/2011 22:33

Sickof, its always the way- the ones who bleat the most about being 'right' and wanting people to take their views seriously are the most down right offensive and chuck a tanty and dish out as many rude comments/assumptions as they like when people refuse to roll over and agree with them.

Gemsy83 · 03/05/2011 22:34

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glitterballmama · 03/05/2011 22:34

Gemsy, it will be banned, I promise. The anti smacking lobby is gaining more and more supporters all the time and they will not stop until smacking is eventually banned.

Sickof, nothing I can say is as offensive as your suggestion that hitting and hurting your children is for their own good. That is truly offensive. And creepy. There is plenty of justification for calling someone creepy if they think it's ok to hit their kids.

cricketballs · 03/05/2011 22:34

I have just asked my 16 year old if he felt that I had inflicted violence (in the 3 times he recieved a smack), if he felt unloved, if he felt anything about the incidents......he can't remember it ever happening but he did tell me to stop moaning about the lack of revision tonight

K999 · 03/05/2011 22:35

I suspect that the Government are NOT INTERESTED is probably more to do with how you police it, and what the sanctions would be? But, as I said, times change and the law eventually catches up....

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