To be shocked at how many mners seem to condone smacking

[Cat98]

I am not talking about people who have smacked in anger and post saying "oh no, I lost it and smacked my DC" - everyone makes mistakes and no-one is perfect! I am talking about those who use smacking as a considered, pre meditated form of punishment/discipline. I know this was discussed a lot on another thread a few days ago, and I was pretty much told "each to their own" - but I am genuinely surprised that it seems to be a popular method here?

My child has been asleep for three hours so why would I need to do that?

BluddyMoFo

F^ck, how could any of us argue with that?

Personally I am shocked an saddened at the attacks and bullying on this thread.

IMO the children of those who have led these attacks should be the ones we are concerned about. Yes they may never get smacked but juding by what the parents are capable of on here I suspect the mental abuse and bullying the encounter or will encounter will leave them mentally scarred for life.

osamabinladensmrs
The difference is one is a child learing their way and the other is a grown up in the big real world
No my baby is only 10 months old and i hate the thought of having to set any rules out for her lol but as i learnt as a child was if i did things that was not right their is punishment if you try and try and try for example
You have a 2 year old child she keeps going over to the hot raidior or putting her hand through the fire guard and youve sat her down and told her that it will hurt you dardeedar and so on ...
she keeps doing it
so you sit her out and say no
But then again she does
and again and again
Now really which is better she gets a tap on the hand which shocks her and makes her stop
Or she carries on and gets a severe burn ect ... I know which one i would choose how ever it makes me sound.
And by saying it is the same as a grown up children are not they need to be taught and bought up
If you use the silly mat or naughter step insteed of smacking you would not say to me you have to be prepared for your eg work mates to sit you in the corner if you make a mistake thats silly .. its because children are children and need that guide to grow up :) thats why i found it a bit funny :) but i can understand why people are agaisnt it i NEVER want to have to do it but i know deep down there may be a least once i may have to

Wanksock

I am twenty years older than you, but you could teach me a thing or two about maturity. Great post.

Ive never smacked out of temper. Ive always used other methods first. Still totally wrong in some peoples view but thats up to other people. I am not doing anything illegal or anything that would warrant a child protection investigation so just doing something other people happen to disagree with. yet this means its fine to call me a shit parent and say I get a 'thrill' out of 'assaulting' my child. It seems to me that the most forceful agressive people on here are claiming to be very passive calm people and its hilariously ironic.

gorge

Mamazon excuse me where on earth did I say anything about "passing a legacy " onto my children?

Did you mistake my post for one of Gemsy's?

I was talking about a partner, and never allowing one to be abusive to me. Never did I say anything about hitting my own children

I think equating vaccinations with smacking is missing the point. By not vaccinating you are potentially putting your child at great risk, and usually the choice to vaccinate is based on evidence. You are protecting your children from disease, pain and suffering. Smacking causes pain and suffering??

Jacqueline sums it up perfectly.
I however dont see it as bullying but an attempt to bully- force their views and thinking onto others in an agressive way. As I feel I parent well and am a loving and caring person who would never dream of causing unecessary pain on others it just isnt working!

Sickoftheholidays - hell Osama, I didnt enjoy hitting my kids, I bloody hate it. Why would I enjoy hurting my kids? At the same time as hating it, in rather the same way as I cringed when I had them vaccinated as babies, I knew that however unpleasant, it was the right option for me as a parent, and my child, in the circumstances I was in at that time. That is for me to judge, not anyone else on this thread.

Eugh, that is just so creepy. To imply that hitting your kids is a loving choice and something you do for their own good...really skin crawling stuff. And we can all judge, and most of us have found you wanting, you assaulted your kid because you couldn't control him, and that was wrong. Oh, I feel revolted, honestly.

So glitterball you arent disgusted by some of the posts Osama has put on here tonight? Imply I abuse my child for fun etc?
It just seems so one sided and agressive- from those who shout the most about not resorting to violence!

Nullius I think this must be one of the very few times on MN whereby saying if your boyfriend hit you it would be the last thing he did means that you inflict violence on your children. And that it is because you got smacked as a kid.

I know people that were smacked as children and have since done time. If the anti-smacking brigade can't distinguish between slaps and assaults, the pro-smacking side seem to think children who aren't smacked are the ones that turn out to be delinquents. Neither is true.

I don't smack, I was smacked as a child and hated it. But I have shared the OP's surprise when people in RL have told me that they smack - often people I would never think would use smacking. Whereas I probably seem like the more stereotypical smacker

discredited? how so? because you disagree with it. so because its not something you choose to do it is therefore instantly wrong and no one else should do it.

Jacqueline - Personally I am shocked an saddened at the attacks and bullying on this thread.

IMO the children of those who have led these attacks should be the ones we are concerned about. Yes they may never get smacked but juding by what the parents are capable of on here I suspect the mental abuse and bullying the encounter or will encounter will leave them mentally scarred for life.

That's genuinely hilarious. Perhaps we who are against smacking are just putting our arguments across well because we know we are right, and hitting is wrong? LMAO that my being able to defend my argument that smacking is bullying = bullying in your strange world! I'm sure my kids won't be too mentally scarred by that!

I have never hit my child uneccesarily. Or for fun. Or 'assaulted' them. But yeah nice try you know!

Rachie...you don't "have" to do anything. It's a choice you make as a parent to smack or not to.

If you are so 'right' why is it a perfectly legal choice in this country? Do tell me? You are honestly telling me all those who voted against a ban are wrong and the few who voted for are right? Not really how a democracy works.

Gemsy, we're not forceful or aggressive, we just believe passionately that hitting children is wrong and so understandably get worked up that anyone could think it's ok.

No glitterball I think you'll find most did not find sickof 'wanting'. I think that an equal number of people see sickof as a normal mum who loves her children and does what she feels is best for her children (and what the law allows).

What amazes me is that Iin RL I haven't come across such vitriol by people when discussing things like this.

But you are- it shows in your abusive comments to others and saying you feel sorry for peoples children etc- low blows because you wont accept others do not share your view!