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To have had enough of DH doing exactly as pleases all the time, bugger anyone else

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Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 22/04/2011 14:52

Self-explanatory title really.

DH and I have 3 children, aged 12, 6 and almost 2. The 2 year old is at the age where he is into everything and needs to be watched most of the time. DH spent all day yesterday making a shed-type construction in the garden to store his stuff in (he had yesterday off work as well as today). It isn't an essential and he literally got up, got dressed, and spent the day in the garden, leaving me to do everything for the kids, housework, cook meals, etc. I never have the option of getting up, sorting myself out and then going out somewhere or doing something that I need/want to do that doesn't involve the kids.

Again this morning he was up, dressed himself, leaving me to sort out the younger children (obviously DC1 sorts themself out). I did breakfasts, cleaned the kitchen, did washing, hung washing out, sorted clothes out for DC2, dressed DC3, tidied, made beds etc. In this time he just sat in the garden. After him sitting there all morning I asked him to feed DC3 his lunch and was genuinely put out that he should have to do this. I then had to nip up the shop and said to DH I was leaving the 2 youngest with him. I was gone 10 minutes. When I got back they were in the garden and DH was asleep on the bench and the youngest was covered in mud and had been playing with tiny bits of gravel that he could easily have put in his mouth. DH didn't see the problem at all. I then had to sit outside and look after DC3 as DH just carried on sleeping.

If ever I do anything or have to go anywhere, DH just puts his needs first. If I go to the gym at the weekend (gone for a maximum of 1 hour), DH will just be laying on the sofa whilst DC3 trashes the place or gets lots of cereal out of the kitchen cupboards or whatever. He will stick DC3 in the playpen and go off and have soak in the bath, or will go off upstairs and play his guitar. He seems to think that as long as he's in the vicinity he doesn't have to watch the children. He also won't do anything for them. If he puts the youngest 2 to bed he won't bath them or make sure they've done their teeth, he literally just puts them in bed and then thinks he's worked really hard. He won't interact with any of the children and doesn't seem to enjoy their company, all he is interested in is what he wants to.

I am getting very fed up with it all; I try to talk to him but he just pulls faces like a child and says "whatever". I am getting to the stage now where I am just going to permanently be "off" with him and start striking and not doing anything for him or in the house, just look after the children. He sees the children as my job, and if he looks after them it's as if he's choosing to do me a favour. He thinks he can just pick and choose when he wants to be a father.

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Balsam · 22/04/2011 14:55

You need to sit down and explain all this to him in a calm, non-accusatory manner and see what he says.

controlpantsandgladrags · 22/04/2011 14:56

Has he always been like this (i.e since your first was born) or is a more recent development? I know it's not at all helpful, but my first thought was why on earth have you had 3 children with a man who doesn't seem to like children?

Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 22/04/2011 14:57

I've tried, Balsam. So many times. He just pulls faces and shrugs and can't see what the problem is, then walks off in a huff because I'm "having a go at him"

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Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 22/04/2011 14:58

It's only in the past year/18 months or so he's become like this, Controlpants. He's always been a pretty good dad, a bit selfish like some men are, but generally a good, caring dad.

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rainbowinthesky · 22/04/2011 14:58

Your oldest is 13. Surely you knew he was like this many, many years ago or is this a recent thing?

rainbowinthesky · 22/04/2011 14:58

No, some men are not selfish. Your dh may be but that is nothing to do with his gender. Dont excuse him.

Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 22/04/2011 14:59

This is true, Rainbow, although I do know a few friends who have husbands who act in a similar way, so in my circle it does seem to be a bit of a man-thing IYKWIM

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rainbowinthesky · 22/04/2011 15:02

Not in any circles I mix in. I hope you dont share these thoughts with your dc - so the cycle continues.....

thumbbunny · 22/04/2011 15:03

Ha. Mine is a bit like this as well. More like a teenager than a husband. It's tough to deal with and I don't think I do it very well - just nag and have a go at him.

I have tried talking calmly and rationally - he just says "I'm not that bad" and thinks that's ok then. He says "at least I don't do X,Y, Z" - well no, but that's Not The Point.

He doesn't like looking after DS (3.4) on his own for any length of time - if he has to, then he usually gets his MIL over to help.

We were down at his MIL's house today, she lives on a lake. We were there longer than I expected so I had to leave for a while to come home and feed the guineapigs. He said:
"can't mum go and feed the guineapigs? I don't want to have to look after DS on my own" (i.e. stop doing his precious fishing and make sure that our son doesn't accidentally drown) I said no. I left.

Argh. It drives me nuts that he can't seem to take any responsibility for his own son, even though he loves him to bits and likes playing with him - anything that needs to be done is too much of a chore for him. I blame his mother for letting him get away with all this shit when he was younger (and she still does it now, given half a chance). Bloody enabling.

Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 22/04/2011 15:03

No, I don't share them with my DC, Rainbow. What do you mean by the cycle continuing? I try to parent my children as best as I can with an unsupportive and unhelpful DH. I can't see how I am causing a cyle to continue.

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Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 22/04/2011 15:05

thumbbunny, my DH does that too "Well at least I don't do X, Y or X". A couple of his friends, who also have wives and families go out all the time to the pub or for boozey weekends away and DH says "Well D goes away all the time and goes out most nights. You're lucky I dont' do that too". As if it's a bloke's right to go out all the time and I should be grateful that he chooses to stay home (albeit being a useless turd when he's home)

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thumbbunny · 22/04/2011 15:08

I think what Rainbow is trying to say from her rather perfect-sounding world, is that you saying "that's what men are like" gives your DSs carte blanche to be selfish irresponsible wankers, Frazzled. Hmm

rainbowinthesky · 22/04/2011 15:08

If you accept that he is being selfish because he is a man (completely untrue) then your daughters will believe this to be the case and accept it from their partners adn your sons will think it's okay to be lazy as after all they are male. And so it continues.

He is selfish because he is selfish, not because he is male.

rainbowinthesky · 22/04/2011 15:09

Why does it have to be a near perfect world where it's not actually okay to be lazy just because you're male. Shock. Do women have such low expectations of men??

thumbbunny · 22/04/2011 15:10

No - because apparently you don't know any selfish men. There are plenty of them out there you know.

Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 22/04/2011 15:11

I am really at my wits end about it all :(

It's getting me down. I know it's very passive aggressive but nothing else is working and I'm going to just have to keep being off with him. He's gone off out for the afternoon and when he gets back I plan to be out with the children (going to take them to pizza hut for tea). Then I might get home, plonk the children in the living room with him and go for a lovely long run.

Some Sundays he spends the day going from sofa to garden to computer to the bedroom to play the guitar. No interaction with the kids or me really, and certainly not pulling his weight. I think I need to get more selfish myself as it's obviously the only type of behaviour that he understands....

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rainbowinthesky · 22/04/2011 15:12

What I mean is, is that being selfish is not a "man's thing" and, no, I dont know any men who are selfish parents in the way the op describes.

Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 22/04/2011 15:15

I don't know any women that are, Rainbow. I think in general society makes it less acceptable for a woman to just do as she pleases 24/7 and leave her children for someone else to look after/sort out. Men seem to get away with it, or at least the selfish men that I know do.

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rainbowinthesky · 22/04/2011 15:16

That's why the cycle continues and will unless you change it.

Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 22/04/2011 15:17

How though? Do I just become selfish and start doing as I please? Go on strike?

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HecateQueenOfTheNight · 22/04/2011 15:17

You say you don't have the option to get up, get yourself ready and go out.

Why not?

How are you physically prevented from doing so? A day he is off work, what is stopping you?

If you are telling us that he would stand in front of the door and physically prevent you from getting out of the house, then leave him, leave him now.

If you feel you can't because somehow you shouldn't or you must have his agreement or who will look after the kids or who will get them dinner - well, you don't need his permission and he knows how to put a sandwich together so go.

I mean, if you have tried talking to him, tried explaining, tried to negotiate, tried to make him understand your pov and nothing has worked, then maybe doing it yourself might work.

And if he says something, you reel off a great long list of times he's done the same and you ask him why it is ok for him to do it, but he thinks you can't?

And if that doesn't work, well, maybe it's time you did some serious thinking about just how much you are going to put up with before you say change or fuck off.

HecateQueenOfTheNight · 22/04/2011 15:18

Oh - and I regularly bog off for the day and leave Himself with the kids. So I know it can be done.

thumbbunny · 22/04/2011 15:18

Frazzled - I sympathise, I really do. I pull DH up on it all the time (yours sounds just like mine but at least I only have one DS!).

Mind you - taking the DC out to pizza hut on your own sounds pretty adventurous - wouldn't you be better leaving him to get their tea and going out for your run? Or is he so feckless that you'd get back and they'd not be fed?

rainbowinthesky · 22/04/2011 15:20

It's not about doing as you please - that's impossible for both parents once you have dc. It's about being in a partnership and working together - by living like this you set an example to your dc of what is acceptable and what isnt so hopefully giving them appropriate expectations of when they have a relationship adn kids.
Sadly you've already had 3 kids with someone who doesnt treat you as an equal partner and you've had to accept being unequal. Either you explain to him and work together to make the changes, you accept this is how it is and continue to live like this or you leave.

Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 22/04/2011 15:20

Hec, I guess that the main barrier to me doing that is that the 2 youngest won't be adequately cared for. He literally sits watching sport, "forgets" to close the stairgate, "forgets" to give them lunch (although I'm sure the 2 eldest would remind him it's lunchtime). He "doesn't notice" if the baby has pooed, I'm sure you get the picture, lol

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