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To have had enough of DH doing exactly as pleases all the time, bugger anyone else

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Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 22/04/2011 14:52

Self-explanatory title really.

DH and I have 3 children, aged 12, 6 and almost 2. The 2 year old is at the age where he is into everything and needs to be watched most of the time. DH spent all day yesterday making a shed-type construction in the garden to store his stuff in (he had yesterday off work as well as today). It isn't an essential and he literally got up, got dressed, and spent the day in the garden, leaving me to do everything for the kids, housework, cook meals, etc. I never have the option of getting up, sorting myself out and then going out somewhere or doing something that I need/want to do that doesn't involve the kids.

Again this morning he was up, dressed himself, leaving me to sort out the younger children (obviously DC1 sorts themself out). I did breakfasts, cleaned the kitchen, did washing, hung washing out, sorted clothes out for DC2, dressed DC3, tidied, made beds etc. In this time he just sat in the garden. After him sitting there all morning I asked him to feed DC3 his lunch and was genuinely put out that he should have to do this. I then had to nip up the shop and said to DH I was leaving the 2 youngest with him. I was gone 10 minutes. When I got back they were in the garden and DH was asleep on the bench and the youngest was covered in mud and had been playing with tiny bits of gravel that he could easily have put in his mouth. DH didn't see the problem at all. I then had to sit outside and look after DC3 as DH just carried on sleeping.

If ever I do anything or have to go anywhere, DH just puts his needs first. If I go to the gym at the weekend (gone for a maximum of 1 hour), DH will just be laying on the sofa whilst DC3 trashes the place or gets lots of cereal out of the kitchen cupboards or whatever. He will stick DC3 in the playpen and go off and have soak in the bath, or will go off upstairs and play his guitar. He seems to think that as long as he's in the vicinity he doesn't have to watch the children. He also won't do anything for them. If he puts the youngest 2 to bed he won't bath them or make sure they've done their teeth, he literally just puts them in bed and then thinks he's worked really hard. He won't interact with any of the children and doesn't seem to enjoy their company, all he is interested in is what he wants to.

I am getting very fed up with it all; I try to talk to him but he just pulls faces like a child and says "whatever". I am getting to the stage now where I am just going to permanently be "off" with him and start striking and not doing anything for him or in the house, just look after the children. He sees the children as my job, and if he looks after them it's as if he's choosing to do me a favour. He thinks he can just pick and choose when he wants to be a father.

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Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 26/04/2011 10:01

Bluefergie, you have hit the nail on the head when you say he has checked out of our family life. Ohmyfucksy (great user name BTW), I agree, it does feel as though he doesn't like me very much.

Last night I tried again to talk to him about things. I was about to go upstairs and wash DD2's hair and he started having a moan at because I didn't take the baby up for his bath. I said that I thought he was going to sort the baby out as I was sorting DD and he said "Well I didn't know that. I'm not a mindreader. Surely it's no more hassle to sort out two than it is one"

Once the kids were in bed I spoke to him and I said that if things don't improve he will have to leave as I'm not putting up with being treated like shit anymore. He said that he treats me well, he pulls his weight and he's a very good catch and I wouldn't get anyone else as nice as him. I tried to stay calm and factual and kept saying "If things don't improve and you don't start pulling your weight you will have to leave". He said it isn't fair that he's expected to do housework when he's off work and meant to be relaxing. I pointed out that I work too and some things are just basic things that need to be done.

So, I'm not sure if we actually got anywhere or not really. He's got to change though.

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Katisha · 26/04/2011 10:04

Why does he assume you want to "find anyone as nice as him"? He obviously assumes you have to have a man to function,
He needs to grasp that you are a person in your own right, and one that is deserving of respect.
You are not merely pathetically grateful that you have bagged a man and therefore have to put up with being treated like a domestic appliance and with zero respect.

knittedbreast · 26/04/2011 10:05

if i were you i would do as he does. Just act like its just you and the children living there. dont cook for him or do his washing, ignore him.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/04/2011 10:12

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Animation · 26/04/2011 11:45

Whoa - telling you that you won't find anyone better is controlling behaviour.

Somehow you've got to be VERY firm and clear that you'd survive very well without him - and mean it.

So far he's got you just where he wants you - you've got your work cut out with this guy!

Newgolddream · 26/04/2011 11:57

"He's got to change though."

Well for the relationship to continue he has to of course but I doubt he will. Its you that has to change - and stop this awful excuse for a marriage drag on much longer. And no Im not telling you to leave him either - thats up to you, the longer it goes on though the more angry, upset and frustruated you will become - the more your self-esteem will be eroded and the more you expose your children to seeing this and thinking its an acceptable way for a man to treat a woman, which it isnt of course.

And you say hes not always been like this? What happened to change things around 18 months ago, after the birth of your youngest? Did he want your last baby btw or do you think he has issues surrounding this if his selfish behaviour only started after they were born?

suburbophobe · 26/04/2011 12:08

slags you off in public? (family members)

From what you've written, he sounds like an entitled overgrown teenager, but that would be a deal-breaker for me.

Criticizes your cooking? Tell him to make his own!

FriedEggyAndSlippery · 26/04/2011 12:09

"He said that he treats me well, he pulls his weight and he's a very good catch and I wouldn't get anyone else as nice as him."

Wow. I can't work out if he's a lying asshole or just incredibly stupid.

How you've put up with this for so long I'll never know.

LadyInTheRadiat0r · 26/04/2011 12:51

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darleneconnor · 26/04/2011 13:08

How old is he?

Why does he need to sleep so much during the daytime?

Doesn't he realise there are no 'days off work' when you have DCs, especially 3. Did he want the 3rd child? Has the problem got worse since this one was born?

Hiw many hours does he work during the week? Does he cook/ do dishes/ do stuff with the DCs after work on weeknights?

It sounds like you are a single parent with 4 DCs.

His comments to other family memebers about you and saying he's a good catch and you're lucky to have him are totally inexcusable and he should be grovelling on his knees with flowers in hand.

Are there other issues underneath like sex, money or health?

empirestateofmind · 26/04/2011 13:09

Can I ask also if your DH wanted DC3 as he seems to have changed with the arrival of the new baby? Sorry to be blunt but having an under 6 for about 16 years not stop is pretty hard work, which is what happens with a ten year gap between DC1 and DC3. Is he resentful because he didn't sign up for this?

Not that this excuses his terrible behaviour and treatment of you. He sounds like a stroppy teenager himself. His comments to you telling you you won't find anyone better are insulting and nasty.

PS In support of Rainbow I don't know any men who behave like this either.

Animation · 26/04/2011 13:15

I don't see how trying to understand his feelings helps right now. Whether he wanted the third child or not, it's not an excuse for refusing to be a dad, or doing a few chores around the house, or being mega-disrespectful to the OP.

SoftKittyWarmKitty · 26/04/2011 13:35

He takes the piss out of you in a nasty way, then has a go at you when you pull him up about it?! Jesus love, get the hell away from him.

Like others have said, stop making empty threats because he knows you don't mean it. You say you've told him several times in the last month that if he carries on this way you'll leave. Well, he's still doing it and you're still there. What does that tell him?

Was also going to say what ChippingIn said above - do you think he could be having an affair? My ex was moody, sullen, snappy and distant before I discovered he was cheating. Sorry but it sounds like he's left already - mentally, if not physically. Even if he isn't seeing someone else, do you really want to live like this? Think how you want things to be in a year's time. Five years. Ten. Now take steps to change things to how you want them to be.

I really hope your life improves, but imo there's only one way that it will.

Schnitzel · 26/04/2011 13:37

He said it isn't fair that he's expected to do housework when he's off work and meant to be relaxing.

When do YOU get to relax from working?

porcamiseria · 26/04/2011 14:44

OP its hard and I feel for you, and its very well rainbow and the likes with their perfect men shouting at you to not out up with it, but its NOT EASY
christ just go to Sicily and see the men there....

but I think you cant continue like this, as there are not good times to outweigh the bad

do you think he may be having an affair? depression? mid life crisis

and yes, his behaviour is all too common, sadly

Ephiny · 26/04/2011 15:39

Does he go out to work? I bet he manages to do a skilled manual job or professional role in the workplace, without constantly 'forgetting' to do basic things or 'not noticing' things that need to be done, or sitting around watching sport etc.

If that's the case then I don't believe for one moment that he's incapable of looking after the children and the house, he just doesn't want to, and is quite happy for you to run yourself ragged doing everything yourself and never ever having a 'day off' or any time to yourself. Everything Hecate said basically.

Don't think I could be very attracted to a man who behaved like a sulky, lazy child.

jeckadeck · 26/04/2011 15:54

rainbowinthesky I know what you mean and I think your philosophy is a sound one but there's nothing wrong with stating that in reality men can get away with being more selfish than women can, primarily because most of them do less childcare and so forth. I would encourage my kids not to think its ok for men and not for women, and its important not to perpetuate stereotypes but I also think its less than helpful to tear a strip off a poster for having children with a man who falls short of feminist perfection. You don't know how the relationship started, what the variables are etc, this guy might just be depressed or whatever... In reality a lot of men fall short of totally pulling their weight at home all the time but it doesn't mean they are all out and out bastards. I think its a bit rough when someone comes on looking for help to make it sound like they are such a doormat that they've forfeited their right to ask for it.

EightiesChick · 26/04/2011 16:05

I do usually think people jump in with 'leave him' too quickly on many threads, but - honestly, get rid!

In the meantime...

When he falls asleep in the garden, go and wake him up and get him to help you.
When he heads for the door with the dog, say 'Before you go, do XYZ please'.
When you leave the kids with him (and you should) for a while and they make a mess, get him and them to clean it up - you shouldn't do it. Same with nappy changing etc.
When he whinges about any of this - IGNORE HIM. Until the point where you're ready to say 'Look, it'd be much easier if you would just go', that is.

angrymomma · 26/04/2011 16:28

OP I am reading these posts that you have written and shaking my head sadly. I was in ''EXACTLY the same situation. My EX swanned around like a sinle bachelor, thinking he was God in the household and we all had to do his bidding.

Seriously, I think the only thing I didn't do for him was feed grapes into his mouth as he reclined on the sofa (although I did practically everything else).

I eventually woke up and smelt the coffee when, after driving to McDonalds for his donner one Saturday, I returned home and he moaned like a petulant child that I had forgotten the bloody ketchup. I mean, FGS, ketchup.

I realised then that there had been too many days where I had not even found time to brush my hair or teeth rushing round after the family, while he relaxed watching TV. I realised there had been too many times where I had literally not sat down until 10pm after doing all the chores, bathing all 3 DCs, making his meals, washing the pots, ironing his clothes, making his packed lunches, etc.

No you don't HAVE to leave him, but just imagine your life without him. That's what I did, and it looked much rosier and happier. Turns out I was right.

HE won't change, because he doesn't have the incentive to. My DH was gobsmacked that I could leave him as he was also a great catch...he wasn't. Just because he earned the money, did not give him the right to treat me or his DCs with disdain while he relaxed, slept, played with his boys toys, whatever.
Oh, and the next time he offers to walk the dog, tell him you'll do it while he looks after the DCs. Tell him a leisurely walk will do you good and watch his reaction. TBH, I don't think he's having an affair, he just wants to leave all the chores to you in his absence.

Animation · 26/04/2011 16:36

"Oh, and the next time he offers to walk the dog, tell him you'll do it while he looks after the DCs.."

That's a great idea!

noodle69 · 26/04/2011 18:24

It sound slike he sees you as a doormat so takes the p. Dont stand for it. I agree with rainbow youare continuing the cycle by saying men behave like this when the majority dont.

Frazzledmumwithsmudgedmascara · 28/04/2011 16:04

Well, things haven't really been much better this week, despite our talk; if anything, he's gone out even more. We went out yesterday as he was off work. Got home, picked up the older 2 from school. DD2 has a swimming lesson at 6pm and I needed to pop to the shop to get some bits to go with tea and then needed to make tea in a hurry. He said "Well I'm going out dogwalking", I said "I need to go to the shop, I won't be long, can't you go dogwalking when I get back?" and he basically said that he was going dogwalking regardless and off he went. He was really arsey. He wouldn't help prepare tea even though it needed making quite quickly, he just stayed out dogwalking until the last minute. He's got the hump on now as when he gets home (again he is bloody dogwalking) he is going to have to stay home with the two youngest as I need to take the 12 year old somewhere. He tries to find ways of making me take the other two with me, even saying he "might not" be back from his dogwalk in time for me to leave them with him. He's only at the bloody park 2 minutes away from where we live!

I am mightily fed up!

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Animation · 28/04/2011 16:08

Frazzle - Blimey!

How does it make you feel?

moondog · 28/04/2011 16:11

He sounds like a complete cock and that 'dog walking' is ringing big bells.

Katisha · 28/04/2011 16:11

SO the dog is more important that his children and wife clearly. YOu have to have another talk I think. Spell it out very clearly to him.