To wonder why Men aren't waxing their nether regions?

[EvenLessNarkyPuffin]

I read this article in the Guardian about the whole pornification pressure and the link to women getting rid of all their pubic hair.
As I don't watch porn, it was news to me that men in porn are often completely waxed down there . The author makes a bloody good point. Why are women so influenced by the porn look but men - understandably -shy away from waxing their bits?

Why have we gone from the Joy of Sex 70s pubes on both genders to, by way of a quick trim then a landing strip, naked female bits but not male bits? Surely all the arguments that apply to removing female pubes apply to mens' pubes as well? So why aren't their magazines full of adds for hair removal creams and wax strips? Why aren't they convincing themselves that it's 'fresher' or more hygenic? How have we, in less than 40 years, convinced ourselves that it's good grooming when they have done bugger all. And yes, I know that there are back, sack and crack waxes for men, but they're still a long way from being considered the norm.

I don't think it's anything to do with sexism, inequality or peadophilia.

I think it's that sometimes men don't like a mouth full of hair!

And some men think it looks sexy.

Just like some men like long hair on women's heads, and some like short hair?

It's a preference! We all have them.

I am talking about the thing of waxing and going through lots of pain is weird as that was the thread title.

Mr spoc - Im ex raf.

Yeah I agree about preferences. However, I have never heard of anyone liking their partner's head shaven (or waxed).

Well, I like my DH's head shaved!

At least I don't have to shave my face every day.

Well not every day anyway.

'Just like some men like long hair on women's heads, and some like short hair' and just like I wouldnt change the hair on my head and would break up with someone who kept suggesting I change my hair or clothes as I wouldnt respect someone who put so much emphasis on looks the same applies to my pubic hair. And if someone had issues about the hair on my head being unhygenic or getting bits trapped I would find this wierd.

Well, good for you Crawling, it's good that you are so secure in yourself.

I also, would not conform to what a man wanted from me, I would not for example, let my pubic hair grow long if a man wanted me to, because I prefer to be hairless.

But hasnt your entire argument been that it is better as men prefer it, It is cleaner for men to go down and men dont like a mouthful of hair and that you went and had it waxed so you could lose your virginity? Personally it doesnt sound like it has been done for you even more so as you didnt do it till you were going to start having sex

You are deliberately twisting my words.
Let me say it again:

• I personally, prefer a full wax. It feels nicer, sexier and cleaner.

• All the men, who I've encountered and discussed it with/been intimate with, have also preferred women to be hairless down there. They have also implied that they would be put off by a lot of hair.

• Yes, I did wax before I lost my virginity. Don't know why, just what I wanted to do. I was 16.

• I don't care, what any other woman does with their pubic hair. It's a matter of preference, and I don't think it makes you anymore of a woman if you have a full bush or no hair at all. Makes no difference.

Those are the points I have made, please don't try and change it into anything different.

A group of pube free paras? I didn't realise the regiment had gone gay .

What do you mean, malifence?

DH and I both shave our bits. I was the one who got him into it because I shaved my parts and he said it was nice not to get hair in his mouth :) I said it'd be nice of he returned the favour and next time he came out of the shower it was done. He's kept it like that ever since and says he wished he'd have done it sooner!

Can you imagine the stick a bunch of manly paras would get if they were body hair free? They would be laughed out of the regiment.

Sequins - Hair removal is more prevalent in the gay community, that's what I meant.

I don't understand the repugnance of getting a bit of hair in your mouth tbh, it's got to be better than stubble .

I'd much rather the stubble!

My stubble would be like fusewire, DH's tongue would be raw after two minutes!
Honestly, I would have to shave twice a day to stay smooth, plus how the hell do you shave labia? (Apart from carefully!).

OP - lots of men wax and epilate their genital area. This is not a feminist issue.

Why would be be licking your stubble??? ... although he may resurface looking like Rudolph!!

There is no 'apart from carefully' - that's the only way, to be careful

I tend to, erm, use a mirror for that part!

I've never been very hairy tbh, so there's not much regrowth in between.

DH has been known to call me "werewolf woman" not that it puts him off in the slightest.

It is nice to hear that some men prefer the natural look. For me, I find it more comfortable hairless, but it's good to know all men don't necessarily expect it.

Sequins agreed. Lots of men seem to think it's the norm for a woman to shave.

Just wanted to add, is it really the norm? Because in my experience (ones I have seen in the flesh/felt/shagged) it hasn't been. In fact, only one was clean shaven, most just neatly trimmed.

There was one that just sprung to mind. An old girlfriend from college. It was a shortish fling sort of thing, broke up murtually. But a little while later, she decided to show me that she had shaved hers in an attempt to win me back. I don't know why she did that, because the subject had never been discussed. For some odd reason she seemed to think that it would make her more appealing. I've wondered if anyone suggested she do it or something.

Malificence - would they? Hmmm most of the lads have shaved skin heads. Not sutre you have met any Para's especially from 3 para mortars.

Atomic.....yes porn probably suggested that to her.

What adults prefer or dont prefer is reslly up to them, but I find it disturbing when I see programmes like that teen sex thing on ch4 where girls who are 14 say they need zero body hair to be accepted, and that their boyfreind finished with them because "she wouldnt do doggy style".

We can make informed choices but brainwashing the young is not on.

I think, the difference between the man / woman doing it, is because very youthful women are seen as attractive, less hair is youthful.
Women dont find pubescent boys attractive, less hair therefore not attractive.
Its actually quite disturbing.