They're coming into our country and they don't even have to register to claim benefits now

[bupcakesandcunting]

Not the words of me but of Alf Garnett my mother.

I feel that she has reached the pinnacle of twattery. AIBU to tell her to shut the fuck up with this? Honestly, it makes me so fucking angry, especially when it is punctuated with "I read it in the newspaper", like that makes it definitely true.

I'm just think of me personally in terms of forriners

Local corner shop - open 7-11pm 365 days of the year - owned by foreigners (hehe OluPolly - this'll make you laugh - they're Zimbabweans )
exSIL's, DH - phramacy mangager, a mine of wonderful information for me personally when it comes to over the counter medications, and I'm sure in his job he's helped many people
Most of the GP#s at my doctors surgery - foreign
my best friend - of (recent) Irish descent
plus a multiude of other foreign workers who have at one point or other been of use to me

Oli - did you not see the recent decision? They've decided that failed asylum seekers can be sent back to Zimbabwe - apparently (despite continued violence since the last elections, and now talk of more elections another increase) that it's safe enough for them to go back.

\link{http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Immigration-Zimbabwes-Failed-Asylum-Seekers-Will-Be-Returned-To-Their-Country-From-The-UK/Article/201103215952206?f=rss\for Oli} personally I think they're talking crap - they basically sayin if they have Zanu-PF connections they'll be fine. Yeah right tell that to my exFIL who was beaten up very badly a couple of years ago, and continues to suffer harassment. Not only was he a known Zanu-PF supporter, he was an active member.........but they got wind of the fact that he has family in the UK, and that most of his family (including 5 out of his 6 children) were MDC supporters and that was enough fuel for them.

Olipolly, I have seen similar cases from time to time. Like anywhere in the world, for the right price it's possible to get forged passports, apply for NI numbers and work. However, it's hugely risky & they would need to stay off the radar - get caught and you face a major prison sentence, and deportation afterwards.

The tax money would just go into the pot and be used as normal I would have thought.

Not sure what your last question is though? Maybe I'm just not understanding it.

Yeah, I heard about the decision but hadn't realised that they have started reinforcing it. Not a good idea with elections looming.

I find that some people are really surprised that foreigners know a thing or two. Someone asked me in 2002 if I had ever come across a computer? Must have thought that I had just come out of a cave in my loinskin

Best one was ' So, how did you get here then?'

DH response - 'By plane - did you think I walked?'

For me:

My dad or else I wouldn't be here

The lovely, lovely Ugandan doctor who helped my DS when he was nine months old and really sick with norovirus and severly dehydrated. This doctor sat and syringe-fed my son with 50ml of Diorolyte for 2 hours and calmed me and DH right down. One of the nicest doctors I have ever met.

Luis the Portuguese waiter in our local Pizz Express for giving me nice pizza.

(BTW, 'tis I, Bupcakes, with a new name!)

haha at the computer thing - I used to head off to an internet cafe in Harare to access the internet, sadly the school only got it's brand new spaking music and computer building (compete with lots of computers and internet connection) set up after I left working there .

I had exH shipped over in a container of tobacco

got to ask your DH isn't.........Churchill,, St Georges, or Peterhouse or similar stock is he, arch rivals of those we were

Baroque - we need a proper chat - such a small world! What school was it? I went to Mabelreign Girls High

He was at Prince Edward!

hehe - I worked at PE for quite a while, got married in the school chapel there then went and worked as a TA at the international school (that was possibly the worst work related choice I have ever made............)

"robf, you know that the british occasionally move abroad too right? That on this planet people may be born in one place and that moving to another isn't that big a deal. You are not required, nor shoudl you be blocked from moving from the place you were randomly born."
How was I "randomly" born here. I was born here because my parents were British. If my parents were not British and I was born in another country, I would not be the same person i am today.

"Do people forget that the British move abroad or because they are British are they actually improving the countries they go to? Is that the way some people genuinely see it?"
I don't think British people emigrate en masse to countries with higher standards of living than Britain and are happy to do lowly paid jobs because that money will go a lot further in Britain.

British people who emigrate are much more likely to be highly skilled than immigrants who come here, most of whom are only semi-skilled or unskilled.

And I do consider myself an indigenous Brit. I don't know of any foreign ancestry. I hate the whole "we are all the children immigrants" bullshit, because it's clear double standards from the liberal left, they will not apply the same rules to any of their "pets" such as the Palestinians, native Americans, Aborigines, Maori etc. Those people are all the children of immigrants too.

My dad was a political refugee in the 70s. And he's a white doctor who's worked for the NHS for 30 plus years. Look forward to seeing the BNP sending him home.

OMG!!!! He's a Tiger I married an Old Hararian !

fark me - it'sa bloody small world, it really is - I have to go out now to toddlers - but I'll be back later

"we'll keep the torch ablaze"

juicy Baroque! He is 36 and I am in my early 30s

"British people who emigrate are much more likely to be highly skilled than immigrants who come here, most of whom are only semi-skilled or unskilled."

Oh yeah, right. Like the octogenarian brigade on the Costas. The only skill they're taking to Spain is tea-drinking and draughts-playing skills

"And I do consider myself an indigenous Brit. I don't know of any foreign ancestry"

Maybe no foreign ancestry from your recent descendants but it is FACT that indigenous Brits stopped existing bloody hundreds of years ago when they were practically wiped out by the invading Romans/Visigoths/Normans/Vikings. Or are you seriously telling me that your family is descended from one of the few English tribes who survived the rape and pillage of this land?

There was a great programme several years ago called "100% English" or something like that, where various racists had their global DNA tested. NONE of them was 100% British, or even 100% northern European.

1. maramalade - stop it and go back to your usual name now please. ThanksVeryMuch

2. RonF you are silly. Everyone has foreign ancestory.

Well I am glad the whole of UK is not like Midsomer

If you're an immigrant (EU, non- EU, whatever) who comes here to work and better your life- then great, please come here and share your skills and boost the economy.

If you're just a free-loader (EU benefit tourist, I know that non EU residents and asylum seekers can't claim benefits before someone says that), then you shouldn't be allowed to remain here! What is so wrong about that?!

I say this as the grandaughter of non-EU immigrants, and my father (non-white) feels the same.

Shirley lay off the cider now, please. Your spelling is all over the gaff and your ppsting on wrong threads and just being a general ball ache. Go and sober up somewhere quiet kfanksbye.

RonF (will call you Ron from now on if you don't mind) if you are claiming to be pure English then you should really get in touch with Nick Griffin. He has a house made of diamonds and gold with your name on it. You are his Messiah.

OK everyone.......... "He's not the messiah he's a very silly boy"

Oh is the deal with midsomer that there is only whites there? Never watched it.