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to think that this country is a total farce!

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mamaLou13 · 22/02/2011 15:03

i just think the sooner my family get out of this country the better. Its ridiculous. Human rights has gone mad . The prison system is ludicrous! The immigration laws are a joke. Britain has lost almost all the values we used to stand for. Where i live british people are a minority/ stranger in our own country its unbelieveable that it has got to this point. The 'democracy' we live in is far to leanient. I am disgusted that we allow such things as the burkha here i believe that like france, Britain should ban it. So much money is being spent to enable life to be better for those who come here and claim our benefits, translators etc and running the NHS into the ground.... aibu to wonder WHAT ABOUT US BRITS????

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BaroqueAroundTheClock · 23/02/2011 13:30

I bet my surname is more "forrin" and unpronounceable than yours ifancy Grin Wink

ifancyashandy · 23/02/2011 13:36

Mamma if you don't 'get' the hatred that pours out of your posts then I have even more pity for you.

Because that's how I feel about someone spouting your kind of rubbish - Pity. And anger.

And you shoot yourself in the foot with regard to your Nuns habit argument. They originated in old old Christianity in Palestine / Israel (not wanting to offend anyone by calling it the wrong thing!). They started as a religious covering in a land far away and long ago. They were 'imported' to the West.

Much like the Burkha / Abaja, no?

Baroque I am jealous - I would love an exotic forrin name!

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 23/02/2011 13:36

really - Natvitiy plays aren't allowed in in schools anymore - oh my word - I've been ^hallucinating for the last 6yrs Shock - I haven't really been every year (twice a year for the last 3yrs as 2 different schools) to watch Nativity plays.

And Nativity plays aren't really that much of a tradition in schools- and the first nativity play with done by an Italian in Italy about 800yrs ago.......

I didn't think that habits/nuns/monks were a British thing - I thought they came in with the Roman Empire Confused (and not very good at history - but I assumed that the monks et all came along with the Catholics.......)

In junior schools no-one has to follow the uniform code (I was told this by the school secretary with the head teacher in the background just last week). If the parents say that they don't want their child to wear the uniform - well they don't have to - it's only really an issue if the child deliberately flouts the uniform rules.

StewieGriffinsMom · 23/02/2011 13:38

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BaroqueAroundTheClock · 23/02/2011 13:40

my poor children were part of no less than 5 nativity plays between them this last Christmas Grin

LibraPoppyGirl · 23/02/2011 13:43

I came back last year from living in Australia for 8 years with my DS, as a single mother.

We love being back. DS loves his school. After his first day he said "it's much better than my school in Australia".

It's not all it's cracked up to be. For some it's great but not for all.

I'm British, I'm proud of that fact and I'm happy to be back in my homeland, whatever some narrow minded people may think of it.

If you're that unhappy with the way you believe the country has gone, then perhaps you should leave.

But bear in mind, from one who has experience, the grass is not always greener on the other side!!

monkeyjamtart · 23/02/2011 13:48

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TryingVeryHard · 23/02/2011 13:55

Congratulations on you qualifacations, OP.

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mamaLou13 · 23/02/2011 13:55

maybe it would do you good to re-read the post! I was replying to tryingveryhard who was questioning my intelligence / how much tax i pay! It really has nothing to do with whether im being rasict or not! which by the way i am not! I think you are all being pathetic.... ESPECIALLY if you are british you are clearly either blind or stupid or just too scared to open yourself to the realisation of what a state we are in! As for my original post where i mentioned the prison system, what do you think about that? Am i being rasict there too? Human rights has gone so mad that they are not even allowed to call them cells anymore they have to be told to go to their 'rooms'????????? They may even get the vote????????? Its shocking! THEY HAVE BROKEN THE LAW! THEY DON'T DESERVE THE SAME HUMAN RIGHTS AS THE LAW OBIDING RESPECTFUL CITIZENS! but hey thats just my ridiculous opinion!

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TryingVeryHard · 23/02/2011 13:58

@ IfancyAshandy (by the way so do I) - OP was quoting me with "not defending OP" but forgot to add the quotation marks - why bother hey

monkeyjamtart · 23/02/2011 13:58

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ifancyashandy · 23/02/2011 14:01

Ok - I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and ask you, if you are not being racist, who / what is to blame for 'the state we're in'?

Oh, and I believe in a prison service that rehabilitates as well as punishes. Taking away individuals human rights does not punish them. It dehumanises (the clue's in the word). If you allow people the vote, maybe, just maybe they may want to become active and law abiding citizens again.

Dehumanise and maybe, just maybe they think 'what's the 'effin point of trying to go straight'?

But what do I know - I mean it's not like the prison system isn't working as it stands Hmm.

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 23/02/2011 14:01

Well there is already an entire thread (or 2?) devoted to the issue of prisoner voting - FWIW South Africa has one of the harshest prison systems in the democractic world - yet they allow their prisoners to vote. Their right to freedom of movement is being restrcited by being in prison - we don't starve, or beat, or withhold other basic human rights - so I for one would like to see prisoners who are not on life sentences being given the right to vote.

As for the being blind or stupid - I am neither - however are my children are "half foreign", and I have extremely hard working, high tax paying, exIL's who are foreigners in this country - then yes I guess my view may be somewhat clouded.

ifancyashandy · 23/02/2011 14:02

Ah thanks Trying

Chin chin!

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 23/02/2011 14:05

monkeyjamtart - we did have a bit of the benefits cheats earlier - but I scared someone off that mentioned it with my joking about her comments Blush (I'm on benefits at the moment you see Grin)

TryingVeryHard · 23/02/2011 14:05

Cheers!

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mamaLou13 · 23/02/2011 14:09

copying and pasteing the daily mail i have actually never read that newspaper i only read a paper on sunday. If you decide to send your child to a school where they don't enforce many rules then gr8 4 u but i choose not to!

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ivykaty44 · 23/02/2011 14:12

the habit is a religious custom and isn't affiliated with British religion as we are not RC but CofE and anyway I think RC started in Italy - in fact I am sure the british didn't start RC and nuns but that it was a custom brought to this country by people of other religions and abroad.

Some particular newspapers would have you believe that we can't have religious nativity plays etc etc but it is all hocus pocus made up rubbish to raise their readers blood pressure

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mamaLou13 · 23/02/2011 14:12

so you really think child molestors / peodophiles / rapists those into child porn are going to change and suddenly decide they don't want to have sex with children anymore..... wake up ifancyashandy and smell the bullshit

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ifancyashandy · 23/02/2011 14:13

OP In order that I could 'stop being pathetic' (nice, btw), any chance you could answer the question re who / what is responsible for 'the state we're in'?

Thanks awfully.

Thingumy · 23/02/2011 14:13

Do you read News of the 'World' on Sundays OP?

ifancyashandy · 23/02/2011 14:14

X Post OP. Well, some people are beyond rehabilitation I agree and need to be segregated for our / thier safety.

So I ask this, what harm can it do to 'give' the vote to someone who is going to be locked up for the rest of thier life. Seriously, who does it hurt to give them the vote?

ifancyashandy · 23/02/2011 14:15

their, flipping heck! I not totally fick!

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mamaLou13 · 23/02/2011 14:16

No dearest thingumy i have never been interested in that either! and ifancyashandy people like you!

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BecauseImWorthIt · 23/02/2011 14:17

Can you respond to my post, please, mamaLou13?