mn is a public website. We do not sign up to terms and conditions that say threads may not be discussed outside of mn, on twitter etc...

[wannaBe]

yep, thread about a thread... big deal.

so - thread started on mn. Another poster tweeted about said thread, came back to the thread and said she'd tweeted about it.

Subsequently posters called for her to be banned for tweeting about a sensitive thread, followed by lots of other nasty name-calling.

Thing is, the thread was public anyway. You don't have to be logged into mn to view it. You don't have to have a button next to each post to tweet about it - all you'd have to do is copy/paste the link into twitter. Once you put your private business on a public website you lose control over what happens to it/who talks about it/tweets about it/potentially writes about it in the press.

To suggest that a poster should be banned for talking about a thread that is on a public website, on another public website is ridiculous.

Mn has hundreds of thousands of hits a day. People are very naive if they think that their private, sensitive business is limited to the few people that post on the threads in question.

And people do discuss mn on twitter. Both in terms of threads/the potential genuineness of posters/the outcomes of threads. It's just that they don't come back on to mn to talk about having done so.

I am a husband and father with a close knit group of friends. Without question each and everyone of them, both male and female masterbates and have done so since their early teens. Anyone who thinks otherwise is quite simply deluded.

Quite why the OP was shocked by her DH's behavour is a mystery to me. Does she not read Hello Magazine to oogle pictures of David Beckham? Does she only ever think of her husband, never have fantasies? My God she must be repressed!

The quite frankly stupid comments along the lines "he may as well as have had an affair" - well come on girls, are you serious? A quick one off the hand is not wrong in any sense and to compare this to him having an affair is ridiculous.

The reason the internet is such a wonderful medium is because it is free and open. To draw further attention to the post is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing. MN is not exclusive but inclusive and as such ALOUISEG should be congratulated for bringing more posters to the site.

Well done ALOUISEG

WhosYourDaddy well, that's your opinion. Personally, I think it's offensive to the OP of the original thread, and missing the point somewhat of what some posters are unhappy about on this one.

What an utterly absurd post WhosYourDaddy (sic).

The thread you refer to was not about masturbation and it is highly offensive to allege the OP of that thread is "repressed". Either you didn't read the thread and have been press-ganged into posting support for someone's indefensible actions, or you have limited comprehension and memory retention skills.

Yes that was a major part of what the thread was about!

I think that masturbation is totally natural and actually good for people.

But use of porn is a different thing, you know. You need to think about the provenance of porn. What it does to people (mostly women).

I'm sorry that I don't read Hello magazine. There are many magazines I don't read, and Hello is one of their number.

You need to think about having a long marriage. Where you think you know the other person inside and out. And then find out that the other person, who you would probably trust more than yourself, has an interest in porn. Someone you have known forever. Someone who is intelligent and has a professional career. Someone who is the father of your children.

Porn usually leads to exploitation and degradation. I feel ashamed, frankly

I don't know why you feel the need to congratulate someone who thinks that I have my vagina sewn up. Is that because i have to think that women being trafficked is A Good Thing? That women being raped on camera is To Be Applauded?

Because newsflash. It isn't. Erm good luck on your quest for total subjugation of the female sex. It's not happening here.

*WhosYourDaddy" that thread you are attempting to make a reasoned comment on is now closed

this is a new thread, discussing something else, related yes, but not the original premise

it would be best if the original discussion was not continued here

been there, done that and it just went round and round in ever decreasing circles

and yes, well done Alouiseg MN really needs more tossers like that posting on the site

we should all be thanking her, for her public service, eh ?

ffs

There's always one dickhead wading in with their hob nail boots with their opinion, pity it's an opinion that is in no way relevant to that thread.

Bravo for completely and spectacularly missing the whole point Whosyouridiot.

Right.

I follow alouiseg on twitter. I saw her tweet the thread and I clicked on it and I came over and read it, with no particular preconceptions. I probably would have read it on mn later anyway, because I follow both places.

Tweeting a link means little more than "here is a thread I'm currently interested in/contributing to" so if people that follow you who may be interested can look.

Alouiseg did nothing wrong.

Furthermore, if we're banning people for this then string me up to, cos I've tweeted loads of threads.

This stuff is in the public domain. anyone can read it. There are thousands of people who read mumsnet that aren't even registered, I'm sure.

I would echo what AnyFule says above. Tweeting a link is no different to me saying to DP, "ooh come and look at this thread on MN".

I have no doubt that other people share stuff via Facebook, email or PM or even text if they're real life friends. I too saw ALG post link on Twitter and had a read through, didn't post as rarely feel there is much to add to a thread once 400+ posts!

However, it was an interesting debate to read. Unless you're posting under your own RL name and not changing any details in an attempt to not be identifiable if there are some unique features to situation then it is almost impossible to identify someone from one post they have name changed for.

Also Mumsnet has 1.2million unique visitors per month! Does ALG tweeting it to her 290 followers make much of a difference? Even if half of the whole of Twitter RTed (which would absolutely never happen due to demographic) it would still only go to the same amount of people who visit MN anyway.

It was the overt malice and derision behind the tweet that is the problem, not to mention belittling someone elses pain for your own amusement.

as a wise man once said, once something is on the internet it can be copied infinitely. I would extend that to say that once something is on the internet it can be viewed infinitely. We would all do well to bear that in mind.

Maryz if you're implying that I responded because of a tweet, you're 100% wrong. Like I said, I'm on MN and twitter, as are most of alouiseg's followers I imagine, so it's not like she was tweeting it to an unfamiliar audience.

What does it matter if this thread has been tweeted anyway?

i am tweeting about this thread

I tweeted it earlier

It's true that once something is on the internet, it's there forever

But you are distancing yourselves from the facts in this case. In this case, an MNer cynically lifted my issue, and tweeted it as an example of someone who was either trolling or had her vagina sewn up.

Do you think this is acceptable behaviour?

And please answer that question. Because it is relevant to this issue.

Do you think that MNers should be allowed to be horribly unkind in this way? Do you think that MN has an obligation to remind people not to behave like this?

Because really that's all we're asking MN to do. To remind people not to be vicious, for those to whom it doesn't come naturally.

Tweeting a thread is no different to telling someone about it. I tell people about threads all the time? I really dont understand why its such a big deal. Especially if it was a "regular" like AlouiseG, where a lot of her followers are on MN anyway??

No, it's not acceptable. But if you go round expecting everyone to act in a way acceptable to you then you're going to be very disappointed. Does not your general life experience show you that people can be callous?

was the issue a) that it was tweeted about or b) that it wasn't treated seriously enough?

if a) it's a public forum that mumsnet itself tweets thread links about

if b) simply posting on the site does not mean that it will be treated or viewed seriously. one persons serious is anothers meh

mumsnet do not contact the op when they link to their posts on twitter
fgs mumsnet reproduce things on here for childcare books

this is an open forum
stop acting as though someone has been betrayed
we are all strangers and owe each other nothing