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My Husbands Children

142 replies

sillyflowers · 03/02/2011 01:38

This is so difficult. I have a lovely partner and he has 2 girls 7 and 12. I have 3 children of my own who I look after single handedly and do everything for, they live with me exclusively, their dad is not interested. My partner is so into his girls and despite the fact they are supposed to live primarily with their Mum who has a big house,lots of money, full time aupair and who took virtually everything in their divorce, the girls are spending 50% of the time with their Dad. He has it arranged that he has them 7 nights out of 14 and these nights are arranged to suit his ex and him. Basically he wants them as much as possible. On the nights he doesn't have them he's on the phone to them or going round to their house. He texts his eldest every night and I feel terrible but I don't like it because it's things like 'I love you beautiful' xxxxxx.It's the kind of thing he used to send to me and it makes me cringe a bit, is that awful?? When they're not around he seems unsettled. We are supposed to be moving in together but because he got very little from his divorce he will move into my house which isn't very big and I don't want to be awful but I don't know if I can cope with 5 kids in the house 50% of the time. The original agreement when they divorced was that they lived with their mum and he would have them 1-2 nights a week and alternate weekends. He has turned the alternate weekend into thursday afternoon to monday which is 4 nights plus having them another 2 more nights the following week and another night before the thursday to sunday weekend. On his ex's weekend he gets up at 7am to go and take his daughter to swimming and does various other things for them. On the nights when she's supposed to have them he goes and takes them swimming or has them round for tea. I guess I feel a bit sore about the fact that his ex is perfectly capable of looking after them when she has them and she has a full time aupair and she has the Dad on hand to do anything at all. The money settlement annoys me because we're struggling financially and she fought to keep everything and my partner agreed to the 1-2 nights and alternate weekends which is how she was allowed to get away with not giving him much. So, we're left struggling and will be crammed into a little house. I really wouln't mind say 3 nights one week, 2 the other but 5 nights one week and 2 the other I think is too much. I work nights and am often tired and I just don't know if I can handle it. Is it really tight of me to ask him if we could try the 3 night one week 2 the next- with flexability of course. Plus it look like he might loose his job and I don't think I can provide for him and an extra 2 children- it's also food and things like that. Really bad situation. I feel so guilty for feeling like this but I'm also cross about it too. It's almost like a desperation thing for him to have his kids as much as possible and he will do anything. Think if I say anything it'll go down like a lead balloon :( Any advice/thoughts greatly appreciated. I get on with his kids and am very fond of them and don't want to be mean. Unfortunately I think if they spend all that time at my house they will get on my nerves. I want us all to enjoy having them and I want it to be nice for them too. Basically, would it be horrible/unreasonable of me to ask that we have them 3 nights one week and 2 the next week. More in holidays of course.

OP posts:
sillyflowers · 03/02/2011 12:11

Just read all comments. The most balanced and fair ones coming from children of blended families. Positive, encouraging comments. Thankyou.
Everyone else thanks too. Some good perspectives there to think about.
MrSpoc, you sound judgemental, narrow minded and unsympathetic. So, I offloaded on a Mums chat thing, there are worse things to do and your comment about just being bitter about him not getting enough money in the divorce is disgusting. this is obviously an issue because it impacts on the lives of ALL the children involved. It's about the welfare of the kids, HIS KIDS FIRST AND FOREMOST, whose side are you actually on? Do you know? The Dad should be able to provide a decent home for his children should he not???? How would you feel if you got divorced and your wife took everything and you ended up in a crappy little rented flat and then got told you may loose your job??? I want them to have a nice home and I'm happy to share mine but I have concerns ok and yes, some of them do involve the size of the house but that's not a materialistic thing it's a realistic thing. Already you're saying you would want your boys 100% of the time, treating them like possesions. Would 100% of the time be in their best interests, would they not want or need to see their Mum. Men like you make me realise how lucky I am to have such a lovely partner.Grrrrrrrr.
Ps. What are you doing on mumsnet?

OP posts:
MrSpoc · 03/02/2011 12:22

sillyflowers - i am not narrow minded at all. My dad left my mum when i was 5 and i have a great step mum.

I also have a child in a previous marrage. so i perfectly understand.

What i do know is your partner did not fight for his half or he willingly gave it to her so you are coming across as being very jealous of her situation.

Also you getting jealous of him texting i love you to his kids. how do you expalin that?

If i diverced, hyou can bet I would fight for what is mine but Ic would also make sure my kids are housed and fed, if that means moving into a one bed flat so be it. Did you not know about this before you got with him? Or Did you get together with him before or during the divorce and expected him to have more than he has?

MrSpoc · 03/02/2011 12:24

SillyFlowers - I am on here because I want too. Is that ok with you?

Try and read who this site is for by parents for parents

There is also loads of women on here with no children. shall we get rid of them for you too?

MrSpoc · 03/02/2011 12:29

Why does me wanting my children 100% of the time mean i am treating them as possessions? This is the same as women who want to have thier children 100% of the time. Here is a hint for you its because we love our children but I will also do what is best for them.

And because your partner is living in a rented flat, he has infact provided a secure home for his kids.

And 5 kids in a 3 bed house is more than suitable. You just want a massive house to show off.

SparkleSoiree · 03/02/2011 12:33

Emotional Intelligence.

BuzzLightBeer · 03/02/2011 12:34

He has as much a right to be here as anyone else.

MrSpoc · 03/02/2011 12:38

Thanks Buzz

SparkleSoiree - Sorry I didnt understand your post, could you clarify. I am having a dull moment - I was going to say a blonde moment but thought i would get attacked lol.

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 03/02/2011 12:41

OP, don't move in with this man if you haven't sorted this out. FWIW, I don't think it's reasonable to expect him to see less of his children because of your convenience. And questioning other posters' right to post is fuckwittery.

MrSpoc · 03/02/2011 12:46

Thanks Chicken (that looks so sexiest)

Shimmerysilverglitter · 03/02/2011 12:58

You and the concerns you write about here are why I fear my ex h becoming serious with a new partner.

I do actually understand your concerns, well some of them and personally if I were you would not move in with this man. However I have to ask what on earth concern it is of yours if he takes his dd swimming or texts them regularly? They are his children not someone else's AIBU.

Personally I would end things with him now or better still show him this thread so he knows where he stands and can dump YOU!

"anything I say will go down like a lead balloon" well yes because you are wrong. Think this is just the wrong relationship for you, maybe you need more of a every other weekend dad. Anyone I was with who expressed these concerns to me about MY relationship with MY kids would be dumped on the spot. What makes it worse is that you actually get to live with your
kids full time, he doesn't and you still have issues with what he DOES get to do with them. It seems the only person with a problem with the current arrangements is you, so you should bow out of the relationship.

theredhen · 03/02/2011 13:00

I do wonder if the OP OH actually makes time for his relationship? Or does the OH poster feel that she is constantly only given time when he can't see his children? If this is the case, I can understand why she is jealous of the children. That doesn't make it right, but it does make it understandable.

I do think that OP is wrong to want to dictate to OH when he can and can't see the children, however, I also think if they live together then he owes her some respect as another member of the family. I presume he would quickly drop his plans to spend an evening with OP if his children needed his time (or if Kids Mum couldn't be bothered), but would he be willing to say "no sorry, can't do it tonight, we have other plans". If time is planned with the children, then that is fine but if OP OH is made to drop everything at the whim of the children or ex wife, then how healthy is that for the children, their relationship or OP children.

FWIW I think the OP and her children have a lot to sacrifice in living with her OH (the main one being her ability to be able to plan her life and that of her childrens) and not much to gain. I think he stands to gain a lot more.

donkeyderby · 03/02/2011 13:27

sillyflowers you sound like a really caring, thoughtful person, a nice mum and stepmum and I think some posters are giving you a really hard time on here. I have absolutely no idea why.

You must be looking at your partner, who has lost everything and is doing so much for his kids, and feel resentful towards his ex. It must be difficult just watching it happen. I think it is really normal to feel a bit resentful of the huge amount of time he is spending with his kids, if he is breaking dates with you. It's no excuse to treat a partner badly. You would presumably put your kids first, but also maintain a relationship with a partner by spending time with them and not disappearing randomly. He needs to structure his time better, especially if his ex complains about him being at her house.

You said you are a nurse, and a single mum to 3 kids and that your partner may lose his job. YIKES! You've got enough on your plate! I think that having him move in because you don't get to see him enough at present is possibly the wrong reason. Put yourself and your kids first.

MrSpoc · 03/02/2011 13:30

I cant see that she does not have as much time with her partner.

So he takes his kids to swimming lessons on a saturday its at 7.00am in the morning and will only be for 1 hour - 2 hours. What else does she want to do at this time?

If Op wants more couple time then they should state a date night still have kids but get a babysitter (which she would have anyway for her other kids)

Also if she wants her partner to do things with her as a family then that should also include his children. So I am really missing the Ops point altogether.

MrSpoc · 03/02/2011 13:34

donkeyderby Op has not said her partner is resentful of his ex. In fact i get the impression she is pissed off because he is happy how it is.

And i cannot see why her partner loosing his job has anything to do with his ex (It could do but cannot see why) It is not nice to loose your job and I am sorry if he does.

FabbyChic · 03/02/2011 13:36

I think she has concerns financially and with what if she worked relying on him to look after her children because he lived there, then he got a call from his kids who wanted to see him. What would happen to her children.

At the moment he is living alone so he can do anything at the drop of a hat, he won't be in a position to do that at her house.

Finances always have to be sorted out before you move in with someone, his children will have to share a room at her house, she has a four bed, so theoretically it is big enough.

But what if the OP and her OH make plans to do something then something crops up with his children i.e they want a lift. He should not have to drop his already planned events just to drop a child off at swimming.

theredhen · 03/02/2011 13:39

"So he takes his kids to swimming lessons on a saturday its at 7.00am in the morning and will only be for 1 hour - 2 hours. What else does she want to do at this time?"

Does it matter what she wants to do? Sometimes she wants to be with him. Why should that be something to be ashamed of?

donkeyderby · 03/02/2011 13:40

I meant that the OP must feel resentful towards his DP's ex

donkeyderby · 03/02/2011 13:40

her DP's ex!!

MrSpoc · 03/02/2011 13:43

FabbyChic - I agree that if they have set plans then her partner needs to be firmer and stick to the plans but him taking the kids swimming at 7.00am should not be an issue. what is the op wanting to do then?

And she has a 4 bed? come on there is more than enough room for 5 children and 2 adults. (does not sound like they are struggling that badly to afford a 4 bed house)

theredhen · 03/02/2011 13:45

My DP regularly gives his children lifts when it's not "his watch" but he does consult me and invariably it doesn't affect our lives at all.

However, I do get resentful that we never, ever get any help for their mother whilst she expects us (inc me) to do all the running around.

MrSpoc · 03/02/2011 13:46

Donkeyderby - Surly the divorce was sorted beofre they were together and so she has no right to be resentful - She must have been aware of the partners situation but still chose to be with him.

Theredhen - it does matter, so what she may want a lie in with partner but at 7.00am in the morning is not going to bether any normal, sane person. this would not be eating into her prescious time surly.

FabbyChic · 03/02/2011 13:47

Spoc she wrote in one of her replies it is a 4 bed.

theredhen · 03/02/2011 13:50

Mr Spoc, but if he is then out in the evening with the children or works a long day / and/or weekends, then it will impact on their time, if time is limited.

MrSpoc · 03/02/2011 13:54

FabbyChic - a 4 bed house to me is ample room

Theredhen - at the moment they dont live together so she may feel that they have limited time together, but in her posts i do not think that this is the true reaso for her post. I just think she is jealous and resentful because of waht the ExWife got in the divorce

donkeyderby · 03/02/2011 13:54

No, Mr Spoc the situation was different as she pointed out. She was expecting his kids to be with him less and this has changed, but there is still no maintenance paid to him despite him losing the house.

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