To think that resources are being wasted on underserving scrubbers

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It makes me very angry to think that deserving parents, like Riven and her partner, are being denied the help the help they so clearly need when there are others in our society who are bleeding the system dry and giving nothing back. Please let me explain what I mean.

Where I live (and in other parts of the country too, I'm sure) there is a certain "underclass" of young women - you know the ones I mean - little scrubbers who clearly model themselves on Vicky Pollard - who are provided with everything by the State. They have not suffered abandonment, divorce or bereavement. They have not been made redundant or struggled to find a job - they have never tried to get one. They have chosen to become single mothers, straightout of school in many cases, so that they qualify for social housing and benefits to live on, claiming that they cannot work because they have a child. They think the world owes them a living and it is their right to claim all these things. I do not mean to suggest that they are typical of single parents or council tenants generally because I know that they are not. They are a feckless, but very visible, minority.

Why should the country waste resouces on these selfish, irresponsible deadbeats who have chosen that lifestyle, at the expense of people in genuine need of help - the disabled, the vulnerable and those who through no fault of their own have ended up in very difficult circumstances?

dame get in that bathroom and scrub yourself with dettol.

As for the parents who have taught their DC that living off the state is a viable option, and that they too will be presented with a nice little council place, to live in off of benefits forever, well imho, they are deluded to a certain degree.

It is a crying shame that there are people out there with no aspirations of their own, but to pass that onto their DC is a travesty imo.
I'm not sure if they know any better tbh.

I am quite certain though that the DC growing up today, hoping to be handed a secure assured tenancy within just a few months of going on the waiting list, just because they have a DC, whilst living under their parents roof, are going to discover that the council lists are far longer than they were 20 years ago, and they could be waiting a very long time.

I do know a girl who at 16 had a baby, whilst living with her mum, dad and brother in a 4 bed council house. She has since split with baby's father, he pays no maintenance, and she is impatient to be 18, so she can go on the council waiting list. She argues with her mum on how to raise the baby, and desperately wants a home of her own.
Mum seems to think council houses are given away easily if you make enough 'fuss'.

I suspect it will be a while before she is offered anywhere.

There are loads of people with very limited and unpleasant options. Which of us doesn't go for the best one available given our circs?

For as long as we continue to incentivise the very people who should not be parents to have children, we will have this problem.

Abolish CB for new parents and give no-one extra money just because they have children and we might go some way towards re-introducing the idea of paying one's way, responsibility for one's actions etc etc.

For as long as young men know that someone else will pick up the tab for their actions, they will continue to impregnate as many women as are willing to sleep with them.

Sheer lunacy.

I think I caught scrubber off her because I also once had to go on benefits and I also like cock.

YABVU to have choosen today for pouring these shit and to use Riven's case to dress up your opening paragraph nicely

I have an appallingly bad sense of humour. It makes me happy and other people irritated.

There is no reason these days to have children that are not planned. Perhaps the temperations are just too great for these young girls (and young men!). No consequences for their actions, benefits given to them because they have CHOSEN to do this.

Yes, I have heard the old expecations argument etc. However what if the consequences of having a child with some waste of space and no desire to support yourself means that you are put in a hostel? Lots of support, childcare, training etc but chucking money at this and giving more money if you CHOSE to have more and more children is just too tempting to some.

It must be very awkward having to literally talk out of your arse.

DameShirleyKnot

Prevention is better than cure.

I am too old to be a scrubber. I want to be a trollop or possibly a 'sort'. It gives you a bit of flexibility, you can be a dodgy sort or a right sort or just a sort depending on your energy level

i think it's too late for dame, get her out of here an' all before it spreads any further.

Sometimes I can only muster being no better than I ought.

CallMeDave, outed as the OP!

Crucifixion. That'll learn em and if we leave them up, dotted along the highways of our major conurbations, they'll serve as a warning to others who might consider The Path of the Scrubber.

we don't 'incentivise' them. We know that sometimes people get pregnant, and we're quite keen that the products of those pregnancies have roofs over their heads and don't actually starve to death.

This thread is a pathetic attempt to employ Riven very difficult predicament as a tool in a not-very-original right-wing argument.

Suggesting that Riven's situation is the fault of some disadvantaged teenage mother who has the temerity to claim the benefits to which she is entitled is stupid, cynical and nasty.

But Paggy, you are a cougar.

haha pag.

Better a sort than a brass

i think you're a bad sort pag. i know your sort

but are you as good as you ought to be, or less good than that?