To think swinging is URRGH!?

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There is are two couples on This Morning just now talking about their love for swinging. They're just your normal looking every day couples. One couple own a swinging hotel and they do to clubs.

I find this really sleazy and just plain weird. She's saying that it's really common amongst primary school teachers too!!

Eeeew I bet they'll be swapping after the show.

AIBU to think this is a very strange thing to do and be so open about?

Yes but if they had a buffet table and you were having a snack break, you drop your napkin and bend over to get it, is that an all systems go for the queue behind to drop their paper plates and commence slipping you a length?

I 'd hate to start chatting in the Ginger lounge with my h cup knockers out and my crotchless panties, only to find that the potential shag buddy was a complete effing bore, with dandruff, crusty feet, and a bad attitude.

It is too late he has already had a good old pervy letch hasn't he? Where is the mystery?

StuffingGoldBrass that's gross.

af i know ive seen the porn!!have been very horny in this pg actually but its become very ahem limited so dont think id provide much entertainment at the atalantic.
stuffing i totally aggree about lots of monogomou couples having mismatched libidos and crap sex lives,i presume that is what sometimes eventually leads to swinging or other types of sex recreation or unhappy lives or divorce.
I think we monogs are having a bit of a pop at swinging not because it particularly bothers us but because the swinger camp is ridiculing us and accusing us of being boring or vanilla. Is it one rule for you then as you have repeatedly dissed monogomy.

OTheHugeManatee I applaud your last post (and yes, fetish clubs can be very funny).

"That's me, not 'all you lot as well'."

Exactly! Binfull, Malificence, LeQueen and others; you are perfectly entitled to feel the way you do, but why do you assume that your way is the only way for everyone else too? I'm really glad for you that you enjoy intimate sex with your DH. I like that too, and also would not want to have sex in front of anyone else. But that doesn't mean that I assume (insist, in fact) that everyone else must feel the same way.

Some people get sexual and emotional fulfillment from licking high heeled shoes. They get far more happiness and wellbeing from that then they do from having sex. Do you label them deviant and depraved, and insist that they get therapy to change how they feel? Or do you think 'well, I'm glad that there are venues and a community where that person can meet other likeminded 'perverts' and feel accepted and fulfilled? How do you feel about gay people? They don't fit your ideal either. Should we therapise them until they choose heterosexual monogamy?

I've read that back and maybe I'm deviating from the 'swingers' theme a bit. My point was that if people don't feel entirely fulfilled by what fulfills you; does that mean that they shouldn't seek their own fulfillment? If the thought of their partner seeing them with someone else (and vice versa) gets them incredibly hot, and it's consensual, then who TF are you to judge?

As far as I'm concerned, what legal, consenting and happy adults do in their private life is no one else's business.
It's not my thing. Neither are the cock/balls combination*. I'm not fan of white bread or football.
Whatever, people.

*Plenty of straight women agree with me, oddly.

"Hully, have you ever been to Stoke-on-Trent and seen the sort of people that live there?"

OI! I live there, well not in one of the six towns that officially make up S-O-T but very, very close - in the nice part. Not a swinger's club in sight.

Actually gay40 I think in some cases yes, it is good to get therapy, as some people are unable to enjoy intimate loving sex.

I dated a guy who could only get an erection if women were wearing gloves, or if he was involved in some chloroform, throw him in a bin liner and chuck him out of a transit van in asda car park type scenario.

Intimacy stroking, caressing did nothing for him. He ended up getting relief by getting innocent sales women in the local Debenhams to try on gloves so he could see what they looked like as a gift to his mother.

So in some ways, the sex he wanted was far more restricted than any " vanilla" sex life I'd ever had.

It was totally boring having him tugging like a monkey as I did the dishes in my marigolds. I also used to tie him up, shove a gag ball in his mouth and go and watch coronation street with a plate of cheese and crackers. Totally fucking mundane as it became, watching Telly was more fun. I hate divulging the details but you can hopefully see my point?

He had a problem with his foreskin, it wouldn't go back properly so had to go deep into fantasy to feel anything at all. He ejaculated twice in a year. He refused to seek medical or psychological help. So yes, I think he did need help. He used to get very aggressive that it was a personal sexual choice, but never satisfied mine once.

Also, as I said, it isn't peoples private lives, it is when they make inmate lives public on tv, that they put themselves up for ridicule. I fell out with a friend who insisted on telling us about the intimate details of his weekend shags when we were in work. I don't come in and tell the world my husband spent an hour licking my quim on the new Sofa, it is intimate.

But the swingers that do come on here, always call the rest of the world mundanes or vanillas, and always end up spilling the details of their swing club escapades in the hope of shocking us "sexual bores" or insisting that our husbands are probably lying infidels so what they are doing is all above board because everyone is consenting. But some people may be attending with someone elses husband or wife, or without their husband or wifes knowledge so that won't stand true either will it?

here bloody here maggoty bin

LeQueen - Who the fuck are YOU to judge Peering for judging you for judging other people?

I think your being a bit of a cunt btw.

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Swinging. Hot people don't do it, do they?

The first time LeQueen? That's shoddy to be honest. I managed it the very first time I ever ventured into AIBU.

I must say it's a surprise to me that it hasn't happened sooner.

And as we know, getting regular sex is not related to physical beauty, else the majority of the world would be unhappily celibate. And Mumsnet would be called Singleanddriedupnet.

Why does everyone keep saying Brian you bastards??

And LeQueen, you know thats not true, I've called you a cunt on here at least 3 times, try to keep up poppet On this one though I agree with you.

This thread gives me the creeps.

LeQueen: "I think the second you start sharing that with a third party, or with random strangers in some dodgy club... that's when it becomes mundane, and dreary and sullied and cheapened. It's not special anymore, neither is it intimate, or precious."

EXACTLY.

God, no wonder people have hang ups, when this nonsense about it being special and precious is perpetuated ffs. It's a physical act which feels good. There's seriously no need to attach these mystical and moral attributes to it.