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are you all scared of being called racists?

197 replies

SalvadorDalek · 08/01/2011 19:09

www.bbc.co.uk/news/
I am suprised nobody has posted this story
Why are we suprised,this has been going on for years

OP posts:
auntyfash · 10/01/2011 01:06

Cheeky fucking cow! I work thank you very much. You really are a bitch aren't you? And even if I didn't work, would it matter? People don't work for all sorts of reasons. BIGOT!

tethersend · 10/01/2011 01:06

Yup, I'm off to work in the morning to visit a girl who's been severely sexually abused by four men and taken into care. Typical victim. Tsk. Easy life for me, eh?

Oh, she's five, by the way.

tethersend · 10/01/2011 01:07

Probably giving out the wrong signals i shouldn't wonder.

auntyfash · 10/01/2011 01:08

OFFS just read that comment about some people being victims. You really are a nasty piece of work!

tethersend · 10/01/2011 01:08

She's just too scared to 'give us her spiel' auntyfash.

It's a convenient bedtime for her.

tethersend · 10/01/2011 01:11

Don't be surprised if tomorrow you see a new poster post on this thread defending her. Namechange ahoy, methinks.

Hope you're ok, auntyfash.

auntyfash · 10/01/2011 01:12

I'm fine thanks tethersend, but yup,namechange ahoy sounds very likely. Hope you're ok too.

usedtobeyoung · 10/01/2011 01:14

Children are vulnerable because they are children, not because they are natural victims. Unbelievable!

RailwayChild · 10/01/2011 06:55

I'm sorry this descended as it did
It is an example of how racist sexist nastiness exposes itself though. Appaling views represented by dobie girl....along with a few presumptions.

I agree terminology such 'those African woman' can label but I still think we are focusing in the wrong way. If we said the two Irish/Yorkshire women.... it would be obvious we were using it to identify and it is in the mind of the 'listener' that it is racism

It's interesting that a couple of people have said that this behaviour doesn't come from them but from the media and other places of authority.

TandB · 10/01/2011 07:43

Horrible, ignorant comments from dobiegirl. I am more shocked about those comments than anything I have read on here.

You are vile.

RailwayChild · 10/01/2011 07:49

I do think there is a competitive nonracism that goes on. That is very very different to anyone gently trying to explain why some terminology is perhaps offensive or institutionally racist.

bronze · 10/01/2011 08:32

In answer to the op. Yes sometimes I am being scared. It's not as simple as Seeker makes out.

Quite a while back there was a thread on mn and on it I found out that people find it offensive to call a child a monkey. I hadn't even considered it as an all inclusive thing before more that some people would find it hurtful as it could be used as an insult.

Roll on more recently. I was about to label a photo of my prem dd with something to do with a monkey. The reason being she looked like a baby rhesus monkey when she was born. Then I remembered that thread and thought twice.

In the end I ended up posting on mn asking if it really would offend as much as I had found out on that original thread. (turns out not but that's by the by).

Some people who posted on the first thread may be the kind who would read my label and think I was racist. Others may have read my thread and thought fancy having to ask but I truly didn't want to offend so wanted to get it right.

The threads probably moved on loads while I typed that

theevildead2 · 10/01/2011 08:49

i've never been called racist- because I am not racist and I don't say racist things. So I don't have to be worried or scared of it.

I do notice that people who get worried about it are usually mildy racist and get annoyed at this "pc gone mad" world because they can't get away with the shit they always used to say.

They make up for it by starting every sentance with "I am not racist... but"

Hmm
MargaretGraceBondfield · 10/01/2011 08:52

The reason we don't talk about white men, is because it is assumed that people that commit crime are white British men....that's why when the person is a woman, black, Asian, Polish they have to say.

bronze · 10/01/2011 08:53

Yup thats it, I checked out how not to offend because actually I am racist.

I give up, I think I'll become a recluse

theevildead2 · 10/01/2011 08:54

Is DobieGirl for real or is she just daftpunk ?

MargaretGraceBondfield · 10/01/2011 08:55

And people are scared that if they comment on a particular group, not their own religion or ethnicity, that they will be accused of being racist. I certainly have been accused of blind prejudice because I am opposed to the many hoops a woman has to just through just to be a good Muslim.

theevildead2 · 10/01/2011 08:55

Wasn't directed at you Bronze in your specific situation.

theevildead2 · 10/01/2011 08:59

Actually isn't it obvious it would be a response to the OP,

"are you all scared of being called racist"

bronze · 10/01/2011 09:01

I think ~I'll become a recluse anyway Smile better for everyone. Too sensitive at the moment

ccpccp · 10/01/2011 13:00

Jack Straws comments hopefully mark a refreshing return to no-nonsense politics from Labour.

There has been far too much pussyfooting around the truth in this country, spinning or hiding facts in case they offend.

Its just a shame he couldnt really push it when Labour were in power. A frank discussion on the effects of high immigration with no pressure to integrate is long overdue, and now entirely too late I suspect.

MargaretGraceBondfield · 10/01/2011 13:07

Perhaps we'll see JS as the next labour PM?

twopeople · 10/01/2011 13:10

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ccpccp · 10/01/2011 13:26

"Perhaps we'll see JS as the next labour PM?"

Dunno about that, but Labour will certainly be back in faster on a no-nonsense ticket.

I think some of the shift to Conservatives was because of their stance on immigration etc. People were getting tired of being told there wasnt a problem and that they were terrible racists, when the issues were right there in front of them.

The incident between Gordon Brown and the 'bigotted' old lady summed it up perfectly.

FindingStuffToChuckOut · 10/01/2011 13:48

in answer to the OP's question, quite simply, NO!

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