young, close relative has become an "escort" WWYD?

[notreallymehere]

20 something low closeish relative has become an escort. She has been thinking about it for a while, tried it in London, stopped but now has gone back to it in her home town. She is with what appears to be reputable agency and seems to be making quite a lot of money. Lots of reviews now appearing on her webpage etc. She appears fully happy with her choice - she had a job before (working in a coffee bar) but says that the money is better with this (she has previously worked as a lap dancer). My question is what do I tell my friends/acquaintances if they ask about her. I've discussed this with some people when she first started in London and the reaction was very aggressive "well you should have stopped her" etc etc. (hence name change) Fact is that she is an adult and this is her choice and I cannot see how I can stop her - she is making a far bit of money at this and is very financially motivated. However she is part of the family and it is difficult to avoid the questions but many people are very judgemental (of me for somehow "allowing" this to happen).

AnyFucker

Yes, it is good to get angry about injustice because anger can be a motive force for doing something about it. I also get angry about injustice and consider myself to be justified. And yes, I also get frustrated and angry with people who express obnoxious views.

Sakura

It's good that you've picked up on one of my points. I'm going to remind feminists and anyone else who cares to listen that it is the denial of people's humanity that is the problem.

Let me get this right dittany can compare us to a packet of crips or a taxi ride (amongst other things such as fuckhole) yet soggy makes a comparison about chips and restaurants and suddenly you disregard what she is saying.

LOL double standards, selective reading

"I'm going to remind feminists and anyone else who cares to listen that it is the denial of people's humanity that is the problem"

But aren't you one of us, Andre? One of us humanity-denying feminists? I thought that's why you were here.

No wait a minute ... don't tell me...

I think you have misunderstood dittany.

She said;

"Women shouldn't be for sale. Your vagina shouldn't be for sale to men who want it the same way they could buy a bag of crisps or a taxi journey."

I understood dittany to mean that access to women's body parts should not be up for sale in the way crisps/taxi rides/insert random commodity, are.

She is talking about punters' attitudes to prostitutes, she is talking about how these men see buying access to a vagina to masturbate in in the same way the see buying a commodity.

She is objecting to this attitude, not comparing women to packets of crisps .

well it's easy to see why Shd took her literally

Ah yes that is right she is very good at presuming what people think and telling them how they should feel

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shd...you have deliberately misunderstood dittany

I thought it was pretty obvious she was referring to the punter's comparison of a woman's body to a packet of crisps

being obtuse helps your argument not at all

shd...what do you really think of soggy's statement ?

are you in agreement with the sentiment ?

andre...thanks for giving me permission to feel angry at blatant misogyny being displayed on this board

I feel so much better about it now

You are a humanity-denying feminist if your analysis involves and concludes with the denial of people's humanity. You are not a humanity-denying feminist if it does not.

I rely on the things you say to determine what you think and what sort of person you are. The fact you call yourself a feminist strongly implies you are a woman. I think in your blustering manner that is what you are trying to tell me. If you think that the sex organs you possess bestow on you some privilege to be right or to behave badly, I tell you they do not. There are some men who make this claim and they are generally arseholes IMHO. If I am disagreeing with them about something I like to focus on what they're telling me and engage with that. I tell them I 'm happy to acknowledge that they have a penis, if that is important to them, but can we stick to the point. Sometimes we can proceed but sometimes they won't move off their preferred agenda and start talking about my sex organs (usually the fact that I don't have one, etc., etc.). After a while you get to recognise this for what it is and cease to be impressed by it.

It is great that you are an advocate for your sex, but advocate using your head not your genitals because I've heard it all before and it doesn't impress me.

p.s. My last post was a reply to Sakura.

andre...to whom are you replying ?

because the way you are talking doesn't seem to be addressing anyone in particular and the grandiose pomposity of makes me disregard most of it, tbh

so forgive me if I don't engage with you any further

ah, cross post

it doesn't make your last post any less pompous though

AnyFucker: Sorry if my style made me come across as pompous. I apologise for my style, but not for what I said. The style may have been in part a reaction to the style of post I was responding to.

p.s. If you forgive me my pompousity, i'll forgive you your sarcasm .

Got to go now to sort tea for my kids - bye.

dittany, I think sakura means that shd took you literally on purpose

shd found no way to discredit your previous arguments so chose to twist your words

Late to the party - but, what about a sports masseuse? Or a therapist/counsellor? That's not like a packet of crisps either, yet people can still 'buy' that person's time without being censured.

dk...there is no comparison

unless you think it is a moral act for men to pay women to use their vagina for their own sexual relief

if that's the case, then yes, perhaps it is the same thing to you

I do not

Sorry, thought we were talking about escorts. Clients pay them by the hour, and that entire hour is spent with the client if they so wish it.

You could view the penetrative sex (or companionship) as the service/ treatment that the escort provides. Personally, I don't think its that different to getting a massage. It all depends how you look at it.

well, I am still reeling from soggy's post, tbh

I wish somebody could re interpret that one for me, and make it not one of the worst things I have ever read on here

It all depends how you look at it.

yup

Paying a woman to penerate her is the same as getting a massage. Good call.

penetrate

Sorry I can't work out why you thought that my post was so offensive - maybe I put it badly. Assuming that it was the restaurant one my point was just that there is more to seeing a postitute than just having sex in the same way that there is more to eating out than just the food bit - there was no intention to compare anyone to food - I was just trying to think of something that people buy where the "main point" may appear to be one thing (food or sex) but often is actually another (ambience or companionship)