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to not want my brother to teach dd how to punch

57 replies

lampoon · 05/01/2011 17:28

My brother looked after dd today and her highlight of the day according to her was that he taught how to punch. I think this is inappropriate as she's only 5 and is going to school tomorrow and I'm now worried she might try and show off her knew "skill". DH says I'm overreacting

OP posts:
Tortington · 05/01/2011 18:14

not nature where i come from

try a friday night in oldham town centre

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 05/01/2011 18:15

but charlies why is it 'worse' if a girl does dcide to pit her strength against another girl or boy for that matter? why is it worse? surely it should be equally as unacceptable as if it were a boy?

friedtoacrisp · 05/01/2011 18:15

Custard, thank you. I aim to please.

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 05/01/2011 18:16

and why on earth shouldn'y i stand up to piss or a male sit down to piss?

friedtoacrisp · 05/01/2011 18:19

My issue with sexual equality? Oh dear me. Where to start. How about the fact that the genders ARE NOT equal in the way you seem to want it. They are different - physically and mentally and deny it if you want, but that won't make it any less true. I am not advocating that the genders should be treated differently - far from it - but you bra burning bean eating man hating thumpers really do have to accept that the genders are different in many ways and always will be.

charliesmommy · 05/01/2011 18:20

Boo.. maybe I am old fashioned, but I do believe that girls and boys are different, act differently, behave differently and in general are not the same.

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 05/01/2011 18:21

hahaha at "bra burning bean eating men hating thumpers"

....and you've just lost your audience.

friedtoacrisp · 05/01/2011 18:22

Oh I don't think so! We're just warming up nicely here!

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 05/01/2011 18:23

charliesmommy,maybe the girls you know are becuase you treat them differently. same crime but harsher punishment (your judgement) for girls. in other words you expect boys to punch so you are happier to let them off with it than you would be a girl. double standards and sexism.

charliesmommy · 05/01/2011 18:27

Boo, I dont condone any violence. I do however expect males to be more physically agressive towards each other than females. It is nature, and no matter how often you make your son play with a barbie doll, he will still be male.

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 05/01/2011 18:31

but why is it 'worse' when a girl does it? that is what i am asking. it is the same crime, it has the same effect on teh victim. why do you judge a girl more harshly than a boy for doing teh same thing regardless of what you expect them to do, violence should be as equally unacceptable from both sexes.

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 05/01/2011 18:32

and why would i 'make' my son play with anything? Hmm strange thing to say.

charliesmommy · 05/01/2011 18:36

Boo.. if you take a look at any group of kids, and there are boys and girls.. the boys will be playing much rougher games than the girls.

From an early age, boys are usually taught you dont hit girls... that isnt to say boys should hit boys before you twist that one. But the fact is, boys play games that involve fighting.. they have done so for many many years... that is what most boys like doing.

wayoftheworld · 05/01/2011 18:38

As the mother of a bullied and pacifist child, it is a handy skill to have. You just need to explain calmly that she can only use it if attacked.

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 05/01/2011 18:39

i completely accept what you are saying. i am not questioning the fact that out of a group of boys and girls, teh boys will be the ones playing roughest.

what i am questioning is why you judge a girl more harshly for hitting than you do a boy? just because boys may be more likely to hit, doesn't mean it should be less worse than when a girl hits does it? so why is it worse when a girl hits? the victim is stil hurt. taht si my point.

charliesmommy · 05/01/2011 18:42

because Boo, I personally hate seeing women fighting and brawling, I think it shows a lack of class and a chav mentality. I dont particularly like seeing men fight either, but as I have said, it is in their nature, whereas fighting is not generally in a womans nature.

GrimmaTheNome · 05/01/2011 18:43

YANBU.
Its inappropriate for anyone who's not a qualified instructor to teach a kid to punch (gender regardless).

Karate teaches the punching, kicking and blocking but - at least what my DD does - is strictly non-contact until blackbelt. My DD always knew she'd be in big trouble if she showed off to her friends and accidentally hit them (she's at liberty to block if the situation arises).

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 05/01/2011 18:45

so just plain old sexism then. ok, just wanted to know.

charliesmommy · 05/01/2011 18:47

you may think it is sexism.. I would disagree

no matter how much you would like everything to be equal, you cannot change gender mentality and natural behaviour

A man is a man and a woman is a woman, fact. Equal rights are a totally different thing.

ragged · 05/01/2011 18:47

I don't teach my sons to "not hit girls". Blush
Because it would give their sister carte blanche to wallop them whenever she felt like it. Grin

And boys sitting down to wee makes a lot less mess (so perfectly sensible).

Anyway, I think OP is over-reacting, too.

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 05/01/2011 18:51

"A man is a man and a woman is a woman, fact"

i agree, but they should both receive the same punishment for the crime. you saying it is worse when girls do it, is not treating them equally,it is sexist.

my children are taught not to hit. there is no difference made between sexes. both boys and girls owul receive teh same punsihment in thsi house for any violence.

humanoctopus · 05/01/2011 18:51

Maybe I am really warped, but my initial thought was:

How lovely that her uncle took an interest in her

I think its ok, I don't think that it will turn her into an agressive monster child who goes around thumping.

friedtoacrisp · 05/01/2011 18:52

I don't suppose boohoo will be happy until we're all gender neutral and playing with mung bean dough instead of cars and dolls. Sounds dead miserable to me.

KangarooCaught · 05/01/2011 18:53

We were given lessons at school on how to fight in the most unsporting way possible but the girls at my school were fierce anyway.

Imo a bit of an over-reaction. If she were a bit older I'd say a useful skill to have.

charliesmommy · 05/01/2011 18:59

I dont actually recall where I have said I wouldnt punish a boy for punching actually Boo.

I said my GD would be in trouble if she had punched someone.

I dont have a GS, but he would equally be in trouble for punching too.

You are the one twisting and assuming.

Perhaps I am not all politcally correct, but thats my opinion. Boys and girls are different. Nothing will change that fact.