To think it is wrong for a surrogate to have a child for two men?

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The men in question are Elton John and David Furnish.

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It feels wrong on so many levels.

Poor people shouldn't have children because it is 'our tax'.

Rich people shouldn't either because 'money buys you everything'.

Young mums are irresponsible brats.
Older mums are also irresponsible-'she will drop dead by the time she weans'.

Guy, divorced, single people - No way

Over 11 stone 'how are you going to play football with your ds?'
Under 9 stone 'you might get osteoporosis by the time your dc learn to walk'.

Ok. Lets summurise.
You need to be between 27-29 years old, 9 1/2 - 10 1/2 stone, in perfect health, earning but not earning too much, in a eteresexual relationship (with guarantee that will last for ever) and own your house (but not too flashy).

"Eg most people seem to think that being able to create a blue eyed blond baby of a selected sex is a Bad Thing, but can accept the idea of the very few babies created to be saviour siblings to help with a medical problem"

do they? I don't! I do not think anyone should do medical interventions on a child where that child does not have a medical need for them. I don't understand the consent and ethical issues here! the second child often has to go through multiple painful and distressing proceedures which THEY do not need. That is not okay with me either

Nice one Laquitar

Agreed Santa

I always find the it's not natural argument amusing wish we had a time machine so people can see what being natural looks like and see just how fun it is with a average life expectancy of 30yrs with many children dying from birth or soon after often with the mother.

y'see SMP, everyone has a "line". I know mine may be tighter than many other people's "line" but at least I think it applies to everyone not specific groups IYKWIM

Saltatrix, IMO preserving life and qualitly of life is different to creating life

but FWIW I have a "line" after which I think preserving life can be taken too far too

Three/four years ago when they first tried to get a surrogate they were much younger obviously, they probably had no idea how difficult it would be or how long it would take.

goodness this has gotten out of hand, everyone wheeling out bonkers analogies and comments.

Oh well, I guess you are having fun.

Mamadeer sometimes the new child does go through repeated painful hosptial proceedures to help the sick child, its not just by products, but how awful to have been made because the by-products were wanted not the child!

it cannot be in such cases as there are NO HEALTH BENEFITS to the proceedures for the donor child, only the risks