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My son had a breakdown last night. He's 8. What the hell should I do here?!

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TermFromHell · 03/12/2010 14:20

First of all, this could get lengthy so my apologies in advance. I'll try to keep it brief...

My son is eight years old. I may be biased here, but he is an absolute joy; kind, friendly, sensible, funny and very intelligent (with an aptitude for the more academic subjects which is also a plus)! Many people (aside from biased friends and family) have told me this, so I am assuming it's safe to believe it to be true! It is also a complete fluke and not the result of any wondrous parenting from his dad and I (who incidentally, were both terrors growing up)! Wink He really is a little star.

I was 18 when I had him (26 now) and my young age has never appeared to be a problem for any of us. His dad and I separated when he was a baby (too young) but remain friends and his dad has him nearly every weekend. We both met new partners fairly soon after the split, who we've remained with happily ever since and who love my DS like their own. It's all he's ever known and he has a happy family life - fairly standard these days I would have thought.

It took me by surprise how well he was to do at school. His dad was sporty and I was bright (but lazy) so it was a nice surprise for both of us! He has always enjoyed school, had fun, made friends and excelled academically. When he first started in reception, he was a little shy (only child thing maybe?) and showed some mildly autistic quirks (struggled with eye contact, loud noises, etc). But since then, he's positively blossomed!!!

.....until now.

I can quite clearly make the distinction between a bright, happy-go-lucky lad leaving his year 3 class at the start of the summer holidays to the miserable, lonely, exhausted lad I have in front of me today. I have literally watched him spiral into depression since the start of the Autumn term - it has been that blatant. Basically, he is being bullied.

It's a few of the lads in his class who are responsible, although there is a blatant ringleader in the midst. There has been the usual verbal bullying; "You're mum's poor" or "You're have and ugly face" or even; "You're disgusting and germy - go away - I never want to see you again". There has also been mental torture, such as everyone running away form him, refusing to play/ share/ sit-near/ etc.

Very worryingly, there is a degree of physical bullying as well. One very dismaying incident, involved one lad holding my DS up against a wall whilst another (the ringleader) punched him repeatedly in the stomach. This nasty creature, is very sly and quite a consummate liar (I've had him round for tea in previous years, so I'm on to him). He seems to enjoy torturing my DS until my DS lashes back out and gets into trouble himself. The lead bully seems quite happy to take a punch himself if it means he can get my son into trouble. My DS has told me of incidents where the bully has pinched, poked and punched him away from the teachers gaze. My DS is pretty patient and has described to me how he goes red in the face with anger and embarrassment and tries to close his eyes and screw up his face in an attempt not to hit the other child back. Eventually the other child will push and push until my DS snaps and clocks him one. My son is very tall, but quite skinny. He can handle himself but doesn't really want to have to. A gentle giant some might say.

This is bad enough, but the ringleader is also very manipulative and appears to have turned the entire class against my DS. He really is a social pariah. No one will play with him now and sharing space with him is done out of duress. My son is quite naive and not at all streetwise, so he doesn't know how to handle this at all. He is quite over-affectionate and will try to smile hug people to win them over as friends. They push him off and say; "Eurgh - you've got germs - get away from me"! He has even gotten into trouble with the staff for annoying people with his hugging. Something is very wrong here.

I don't even blame the bullies though really. No. The weak link here is the teacher. She seems to have it in for my son and that in turn has given the kids permission to have a go at him as well. She singles him out and embarrasses him. I was unimpressed with her the first time I met her (end of Sept). Prior to my son telling me about the bullying, she was complaining about his distractedness, fidgeting and over-affection. Fair enough. I was perfectly polite and co-operative - I always have been as I believe parents and teachers should be working together to help children. I asked her a simple question (if she would keep her eyes peeled for any 'behind-the-scenes' stuff that might be happening that could be effecting him). She quite defensively interrupted me twice as if if I was attacking her teaching. I wasn't, and made sure I repeated my request calmly. She also said his fidgeting made him and 'irritant' - even though he didn't mean to be. Weird. And not pleasant.

A few weeks later, it was parents evening. By this point, my son had told me he was being bullied and I had made an appointment with the deputy head later that same night to familiarise my self with the school's policy and ask what could be done. His class teacher was then overly complimentary and keen on my son! She had no choice but to compliment his school work (which is to a high standard anyway) but she seemed far more focused on his personality. I felt like she was paying me lip service. "Oh he's so great - he's one of my favourites actually! The other day, I had to tell him off for something and he looked so sad, I was heartbroken for the rest of the day. I can't bear it if he's off with me - he and I have a special bond", etc, etc... (even if that was true, get a bloody grip woman)! I wondered if she was saying all this stuff because she was paranoid about me possibly complaining about her to the deputy head later (I wasn't going to and didn't) or whether she says it to every parent? Who knows?! Later that night the deputy head was very helpful and promised to speak to the boys involved in the bullying and look out for DS's well being.

Except things went from bad to worse.

One particularly heartbreaking incident was quite recently. The children all went to the theatre as a day trip. I asked DS if he had enjoyed, which he said he had. I said to him; "who did you sit next to on the coach?!" and he replied; "No one". I said; "what do you mean? On the way there or on the way back?" "Both" he answered. It transpired that he had also been separated from the rest of the class during the show as well, sitting only next to a teacher with the class on the other side. In other words, his teachers had quite clearly either just left him on his own or blatantly separated him. Had he done anything wrong or naughty? No. This has been confirmed by staff.

When I spoke to the deputy head about this she said; "how does your DS feel about this?" to which I replied he had been matter-of-fact about it. She agreed that it was awful that he just accepted that he would always be left out. She mentioned the words 'class scapegoat' and started talking about moving him to another class in the year (it's a big school, with four form entry). I politely suggested that perhaps some of the bullies should be separated. She said she understood that but, to think of a large portion of the children in my DS's current class as a "lost cause" and that my DS would never quite fit in with them as they as rude, brash and rough - something my over-sensitive DS struggles with. She said even if she put the ringleader in another class, there are many kids in his current class cut from similar cloth and willing to fill said ringleaders shoes. And that basically, my DS needs "a bunch of nerds to hang around with" (I actually agree) and that there is a class with a vacancy coming up that has some nicer, more mature lads in it. Fine. Sounds good. Up to DS in the end though.

Meanwhile, his dad (working nights at the mo) phoned the school to confirm what was happening. It sounds like the deputy head had a very different conversation with him than she did with me, giving his dad pointers to share with DS on how to be less of an annoyance and how to make friends. If that's how the school feels, then fine but at least keep the message consistent between the two parents FFS!!!

Just yesterday, came the final straw for me. I went to pick my son up from school (yes, it is amazingly still open!) and he beamed when he saw me as he was coming out the door. I thought to myself; great - he looks like he's had a good day! He went over to his teacher and said "I see my mum" so that he could get permission to go. Teacher looked at me coldly and turned back to my DS and started having a real go at him - wagging her finger in his face and everything. This was in front of his fellow students, the others parents at the school and HIS OWN MOTHER!!! I was just about to go up and ask what the problem was when he ran over to me all deflated. I asked him was there a problem and did we have to go and speak to his teacher and what did he do wrong. He said no and we were free to go and that he would tell me the problem on the way to the car. So we left. After what happened next, I now really regret not marching up to the bitch and saying; "Do you really think it's wise to humiliate a child so publicly? How do you like it back?!" Angry

(As it turns out, DS had called one of the girls a 'loser' after she had snatched a school pencil off of him (that he had admittedly sucked the top of) and called him 'germy and disgusting'. Not nice of him (and I told him so) but he got the full blame - nothing on the female child. His teacher in the playground had said to him; "stop irritating people with your behaviour and try to get along with people.)

When we got back to the car, DS absolutely broke down. Horrendously so. I have never, ever seen him so upset in all my life. He was saying things like; "Everybody hates me so, so much. They're making my life hell - even the girls now. They always push me over and leave me out. Everyone runs away form me I had two friends and now they run away from me too. They call me names and punch and kick me. Sometimes they pretend to punch me and stop just before my face, which is even more annoying. I do things differently to them but they always pick on me for every. little. thing. Like if I hold my pen differently or if look at them and smile, they tell me off and boss me around. My methods are different at school and they always tell me I'm doing it wrong but I get lots right too. They always think they're right and I'm crap. I'm sick of it. I even stopped hugging everyone and they still hate me. Harry hugs everyone now and no one minds it when it's him. They all snatch things off me - even when they're mine. If I get put into a group, they all say; "oh no - not DS's name*" and the teacher never tells them off. She's always telling me off though. I can't concentrate on my work because all I can think off is how to get people to like me No one is nice to me - they're all so extreme. I hate my life and I want to die." Sad

It was devastating (although I was part impressed, part horrified to hear him genuinely use the words; 'method', 'extreme' and 'crap' - quite, erm adult?!). I have seriously never been so heartbroken and had to stop myself from crying at just how broken my little man has become. He looked exhausted. He couldn't even breath, he was crying so hard. He was pleading with me to help him. He even wrote me a letter, apologising for calling that girl a loser - as if that was the big bloody problem. I'm so genuinely gutted to see this normally happy, bright little boy so nervy and despondent. This is no way for him to live. I am so angry with his teacher - why is she doing this to him? I kept him off school today - my conscience wouldn't let me send him to be looked after by this woman. I have made another appointment with the deputy head on Monday and this time, I'm going to get pissed off. Angry

I understand that the school has to put the majority of the class first. But I genuinely don't believe that my son deserves this level of malignment for "being a bit annoying". Please mumsnetters - have I got this all wrong? what the hell should I do?! Sad

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femalevictormeldrew · 26/01/2011 12:18

I am glad for all your sakes that it has turned out well. Stuff like this would stay with a child for life. I hope you do push this further to get some justice for your boy and maybe prevent that nasty person who has the title "teacher" from doing it to another child.

happystressedmum · 26/01/2011 12:19

This is absolutely shocking - all of it and I feel for you little boy. I experienced something similar with my little boy (although not nearly as bad as you have explained) and I took my son out of the school as the teachers/deputy etc were scared of the 'rough' parents etc and it was easier to keep blaming my son when they knew full well what was going on and who the bully was.

My son has changed beyond recognition and was tearful all of the time, detached himself from the family, very quiet and withdrawn etc.

He is now so happy at school and has made lots of friends (who are more like him) and he comes home talking excitedly about school and what they have done that day, he laughs (again) and is back to his old self.

Do not send your child back to that enviroment - the school have no itention of dealing with this.

KangarooCaught · 26/01/2011 12:20

Am just so overwhelmingly delighted for your son GrinGrinGrin]grin]Grin

Thank you for coming back to update, you must be so relieved and happy.

BoffinMum · 26/01/2011 12:26

Just seen this. What a wonderful mum your little boy has. Well done for a splendid job sorting this out.

rockinhippy · 26/01/2011 12:28

So glad its all turned out so well for you all :) & thats your DS is happy again, thats wonderful news

My own DD went through it too, only in our case it was finally taken seriously & the other kids have now left the School, & as hard a time as it was to go through, in a weird way it has actually helped DD to grow emotionally, she is just so good at dealing with conflict now, incredibly level headed & aware for her age :)

so hopefully with time you will see that in your own DS too...good luck to you all & thanks for updating, its lovely to see a happy ending :)

OsbegaEthewulf · 26/01/2011 12:37

Ohhh...reading your update has made my day! I am so happy for you and your ds :)

KittaKatta · 26/01/2011 12:43

So glad things have turned out so well. I have often thought and wondered over the last month how things were going. I didn't post any advice, but did follow the thread. I wish you and your little boy all the best

Scaredycat3000 · 26/01/2011 12:50

I hate doing this, I haven't read all the thread.
I worked in a school with a horrible bully of a teacher. It was bad enough her bullying me, and watching her bullying other members of staff, but the worst was watching her bullying the children. I did my best for them, would take the blame myself if I could, but it was awful. The worst thing was she had form, the new Head knew all this but didn't have enough evidence. If you have the energy push as hard as you can, she will keep doing this until there is enough evidence to do something.

OhCobblers · 26/01/2011 12:53

i remember your thread from Dec and reading it through so many tears. was so very sad for both of you. i didn't add anything at the time as i didn't feel i could offer any wise words unlike so many other MNetters.

however, just to say well done you and well done your wonderful son and much much luck and best wishes to you both.

if there is any justice in this world, his old teacher will get fired Grin

SparkleSoiree · 26/01/2011 13:12

I am so pleased to read a positive outcome. I was bullied in primary school for 6 years until my mother eventually moved my sister and I to another school for my last year. It was the best thing she could ever have done for us.

Reading your initial post sounded just like my years being bullied and it was the loneliest time of my life - well done you for taking decisive action!!

Reeeespect as my DS would say!

EsioTrot · 26/01/2011 13:21

I lurked on this thread but didn't feel I had anything helpful to say that hadn't been said already.

I've come out of 'lurkdom' to say thank you so much for the update. I'm so pleased for your DS and you too. You're obviously a fab mum and he's such such a lucky boy having you. Well done!

lottiejenkins · 26/01/2011 13:21

I watched this thread before christmas and i was bullied at school too....... Im so glad you have a happy ending for your ds!!

tinierclanger · 26/01/2011 13:25

Am so glad - I lurked on the original thread and have been wondering how you and your boy were - thanks for updating!

QueenofAllWildThings · 26/01/2011 13:28

OMG, heartbreaking to read - a few tears here for your lovely little boy who is doing his best and being treated appallingly. REALLY hope that it all gets sorted soon - and be proud that he is happy to tell you all this and not keep it locked up inside. KEep the communication open with him, most importantly.

MardyBra · 26/01/2011 13:30

I also lurked on this thread as other said all that needed to be said. I have a lump in my throat reading about how things have changed for you. Good luck. BTW, you sound like a lovely mum.

marge2 · 26/01/2011 13:40

Duh - sorry - missed the midle bit. So glad it's all turned out well. Well done you!!

ohmeohmy · 26/01/2011 13:44

another lurker here. So glad it's all worked out so well. He's lucky to have such a supportive mum.

BaggedandTagged · 26/01/2011 13:57

It's so weird. I was just thinking about you and your son today and wondering what happened in the end- your original thread made me so sad for your little boy- then I came on MN and saw your update.

Can go to bed happy now Smile

MoonGirl1981 · 26/01/2011 14:45

Definately take him out of the school. They're clearly not able to take care of children/do their jobs.

He can't go back there, not when he's being treated like that.

And the teacher needs bitch slapping. I'm sure a group of us could get together and take care of that for you.

Keep your little guy home with you for a bit. Give him a hug from me.

xxxxxxxxx

OgreTripletsAreSoCute · 26/01/2011 14:50

I'm so pleased to see this, can't remember if I posted on it originally, but I remember being reduced to tears by it, what a brilliant outcome.

whoknowswhatthefutureholds · 26/01/2011 17:26

I'm so pleased that i'm having a little sob x

KangarooCaught · 26/01/2011 21:14

Just thought I'd bump your update for the evening crowd Smile

PeachesandStrawberry · 26/01/2011 21:30

Excellent.

TrappedinSuburbia · 26/01/2011 21:36

Brilliant news and a virtual high five!!

Can't remember if I posted before but I certainly remember the thread.

What your ds will know is that he can count on you and that will be what he remembers as he grows up.

mercibucket · 26/01/2011 21:43

wonderful - what a wonderful mother you are - am so pleased to hear it is turning out so well

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