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My son had a breakdown last night. He's 8. What the hell should I do here?!

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TermFromHell · 03/12/2010 14:20

First of all, this could get lengthy so my apologies in advance. I'll try to keep it brief...

My son is eight years old. I may be biased here, but he is an absolute joy; kind, friendly, sensible, funny and very intelligent (with an aptitude for the more academic subjects which is also a plus)! Many people (aside from biased friends and family) have told me this, so I am assuming it's safe to believe it to be true! It is also a complete fluke and not the result of any wondrous parenting from his dad and I (who incidentally, were both terrors growing up)! Wink He really is a little star.

I was 18 when I had him (26 now) and my young age has never appeared to be a problem for any of us. His dad and I separated when he was a baby (too young) but remain friends and his dad has him nearly every weekend. We both met new partners fairly soon after the split, who we've remained with happily ever since and who love my DS like their own. It's all he's ever known and he has a happy family life - fairly standard these days I would have thought.

It took me by surprise how well he was to do at school. His dad was sporty and I was bright (but lazy) so it was a nice surprise for both of us! He has always enjoyed school, had fun, made friends and excelled academically. When he first started in reception, he was a little shy (only child thing maybe?) and showed some mildly autistic quirks (struggled with eye contact, loud noises, etc). But since then, he's positively blossomed!!!

.....until now.

I can quite clearly make the distinction between a bright, happy-go-lucky lad leaving his year 3 class at the start of the summer holidays to the miserable, lonely, exhausted lad I have in front of me today. I have literally watched him spiral into depression since the start of the Autumn term - it has been that blatant. Basically, he is being bullied.

It's a few of the lads in his class who are responsible, although there is a blatant ringleader in the midst. There has been the usual verbal bullying; "You're mum's poor" or "You're have and ugly face" or even; "You're disgusting and germy - go away - I never want to see you again". There has also been mental torture, such as everyone running away form him, refusing to play/ share/ sit-near/ etc.

Very worryingly, there is a degree of physical bullying as well. One very dismaying incident, involved one lad holding my DS up against a wall whilst another (the ringleader) punched him repeatedly in the stomach. This nasty creature, is very sly and quite a consummate liar (I've had him round for tea in previous years, so I'm on to him). He seems to enjoy torturing my DS until my DS lashes back out and gets into trouble himself. The lead bully seems quite happy to take a punch himself if it means he can get my son into trouble. My DS has told me of incidents where the bully has pinched, poked and punched him away from the teachers gaze. My DS is pretty patient and has described to me how he goes red in the face with anger and embarrassment and tries to close his eyes and screw up his face in an attempt not to hit the other child back. Eventually the other child will push and push until my DS snaps and clocks him one. My son is very tall, but quite skinny. He can handle himself but doesn't really want to have to. A gentle giant some might say.

This is bad enough, but the ringleader is also very manipulative and appears to have turned the entire class against my DS. He really is a social pariah. No one will play with him now and sharing space with him is done out of duress. My son is quite naive and not at all streetwise, so he doesn't know how to handle this at all. He is quite over-affectionate and will try to smile hug people to win them over as friends. They push him off and say; "Eurgh - you've got germs - get away from me"! He has even gotten into trouble with the staff for annoying people with his hugging. Something is very wrong here.

I don't even blame the bullies though really. No. The weak link here is the teacher. She seems to have it in for my son and that in turn has given the kids permission to have a go at him as well. She singles him out and embarrasses him. I was unimpressed with her the first time I met her (end of Sept). Prior to my son telling me about the bullying, she was complaining about his distractedness, fidgeting and over-affection. Fair enough. I was perfectly polite and co-operative - I always have been as I believe parents and teachers should be working together to help children. I asked her a simple question (if she would keep her eyes peeled for any 'behind-the-scenes' stuff that might be happening that could be effecting him). She quite defensively interrupted me twice as if if I was attacking her teaching. I wasn't, and made sure I repeated my request calmly. She also said his fidgeting made him and 'irritant' - even though he didn't mean to be. Weird. And not pleasant.

A few weeks later, it was parents evening. By this point, my son had told me he was being bullied and I had made an appointment with the deputy head later that same night to familiarise my self with the school's policy and ask what could be done. His class teacher was then overly complimentary and keen on my son! She had no choice but to compliment his school work (which is to a high standard anyway) but she seemed far more focused on his personality. I felt like she was paying me lip service. "Oh he's so great - he's one of my favourites actually! The other day, I had to tell him off for something and he looked so sad, I was heartbroken for the rest of the day. I can't bear it if he's off with me - he and I have a special bond", etc, etc... (even if that was true, get a bloody grip woman)! I wondered if she was saying all this stuff because she was paranoid about me possibly complaining about her to the deputy head later (I wasn't going to and didn't) or whether she says it to every parent? Who knows?! Later that night the deputy head was very helpful and promised to speak to the boys involved in the bullying and look out for DS's well being.

Except things went from bad to worse.

One particularly heartbreaking incident was quite recently. The children all went to the theatre as a day trip. I asked DS if he had enjoyed, which he said he had. I said to him; "who did you sit next to on the coach?!" and he replied; "No one". I said; "what do you mean? On the way there or on the way back?" "Both" he answered. It transpired that he had also been separated from the rest of the class during the show as well, sitting only next to a teacher with the class on the other side. In other words, his teachers had quite clearly either just left him on his own or blatantly separated him. Had he done anything wrong or naughty? No. This has been confirmed by staff.

When I spoke to the deputy head about this she said; "how does your DS feel about this?" to which I replied he had been matter-of-fact about it. She agreed that it was awful that he just accepted that he would always be left out. She mentioned the words 'class scapegoat' and started talking about moving him to another class in the year (it's a big school, with four form entry). I politely suggested that perhaps some of the bullies should be separated. She said she understood that but, to think of a large portion of the children in my DS's current class as a "lost cause" and that my DS would never quite fit in with them as they as rude, brash and rough - something my over-sensitive DS struggles with. She said even if she put the ringleader in another class, there are many kids in his current class cut from similar cloth and willing to fill said ringleaders shoes. And that basically, my DS needs "a bunch of nerds to hang around with" (I actually agree) and that there is a class with a vacancy coming up that has some nicer, more mature lads in it. Fine. Sounds good. Up to DS in the end though.

Meanwhile, his dad (working nights at the mo) phoned the school to confirm what was happening. It sounds like the deputy head had a very different conversation with him than she did with me, giving his dad pointers to share with DS on how to be less of an annoyance and how to make friends. If that's how the school feels, then fine but at least keep the message consistent between the two parents FFS!!!

Just yesterday, came the final straw for me. I went to pick my son up from school (yes, it is amazingly still open!) and he beamed when he saw me as he was coming out the door. I thought to myself; great - he looks like he's had a good day! He went over to his teacher and said "I see my mum" so that he could get permission to go. Teacher looked at me coldly and turned back to my DS and started having a real go at him - wagging her finger in his face and everything. This was in front of his fellow students, the others parents at the school and HIS OWN MOTHER!!! I was just about to go up and ask what the problem was when he ran over to me all deflated. I asked him was there a problem and did we have to go and speak to his teacher and what did he do wrong. He said no and we were free to go and that he would tell me the problem on the way to the car. So we left. After what happened next, I now really regret not marching up to the bitch and saying; "Do you really think it's wise to humiliate a child so publicly? How do you like it back?!" Angry

(As it turns out, DS had called one of the girls a 'loser' after she had snatched a school pencil off of him (that he had admittedly sucked the top of) and called him 'germy and disgusting'. Not nice of him (and I told him so) but he got the full blame - nothing on the female child. His teacher in the playground had said to him; "stop irritating people with your behaviour and try to get along with people.)

When we got back to the car, DS absolutely broke down. Horrendously so. I have never, ever seen him so upset in all my life. He was saying things like; "Everybody hates me so, so much. They're making my life hell - even the girls now. They always push me over and leave me out. Everyone runs away form me I had two friends and now they run away from me too. They call me names and punch and kick me. Sometimes they pretend to punch me and stop just before my face, which is even more annoying. I do things differently to them but they always pick on me for every. little. thing. Like if I hold my pen differently or if look at them and smile, they tell me off and boss me around. My methods are different at school and they always tell me I'm doing it wrong but I get lots right too. They always think they're right and I'm crap. I'm sick of it. I even stopped hugging everyone and they still hate me. Harry hugs everyone now and no one minds it when it's him. They all snatch things off me - even when they're mine. If I get put into a group, they all say; "oh no - not DS's name*" and the teacher never tells them off. She's always telling me off though. I can't concentrate on my work because all I can think off is how to get people to like me No one is nice to me - they're all so extreme. I hate my life and I want to die." Sad

It was devastating (although I was part impressed, part horrified to hear him genuinely use the words; 'method', 'extreme' and 'crap' - quite, erm adult?!). I have seriously never been so heartbroken and had to stop myself from crying at just how broken my little man has become. He looked exhausted. He couldn't even breath, he was crying so hard. He was pleading with me to help him. He even wrote me a letter, apologising for calling that girl a loser - as if that was the big bloody problem. I'm so genuinely gutted to see this normally happy, bright little boy so nervy and despondent. This is no way for him to live. I am so angry with his teacher - why is she doing this to him? I kept him off school today - my conscience wouldn't let me send him to be looked after by this woman. I have made another appointment with the deputy head on Monday and this time, I'm going to get pissed off. Angry

I understand that the school has to put the majority of the class first. But I genuinely don't believe that my son deserves this level of malignment for "being a bit annoying". Please mumsnetters - have I got this all wrong? what the hell should I do?! Sad

OP posts:
whenigrowup · 06/12/2010 15:07

Oh my goodness this sounds so awful for you. I can't help but agree with the other posters who recommend a different school. Some situations are just too deep and entrenched to change. Your son is precious and does not deserve to be going through all this stress at such a young age (neither do you). Please let us know how you are getting on; I feel for your family so much.

TurkeyBurgerThing · 06/12/2010 15:09

I completely sympathise with you. This is pretty much EXACTLY what I had to endure at school from the age of 8 until the day I left at 17. The difference being my parents were convinced it was all my fault to start with (which it never was) and so I never told them even to this day the horrors as to what I endured for the entire time I was at school.

I severely hope you can sort this out asap and your boy returns to the happy little guy he once was.

To this day I am still deeply traumatised at the bullying I suffered, I hide it well but I know I'll never get over it. The only consolation I have is that one of the ring leaders of my childhood mystery is currently doing life for murdering his own dad. Spoilt little shit he was had everything he could have wished for as a child.

MsKalo · 06/12/2010 15:29

Any update on this?

giveitago · 06/12/2010 15:54

Termfromhell - read the start of thread but not the rest.

A little story - my neighbour a lone parent used to leave 6 year old with me when snowing and I'd take him to school. I was shocked with behaviour of other kids with him and, worse, the attitude of other parents. This child was sullen and rude and didn't seem to be able to make friends (unsurprising given behaviour of kids backed up by parents). They've moved away but came to see us yesterday as there was a school event on and they wanted to (re)visit.

He's now at a school with less than favourable ofsted but is so much happier - doing well and he's changed sooo much in the last 6 months and I'm happy for him. Mum went to visit old school and came away feeling vindicated with the view it was the school and parents that had caused the issues.

I hope a new start could do your little one some real good.

There are things we have no control over and things can get better.

PeeringIntoAFestiveVoid · 06/12/2010 15:56

Where'd the OP go? Xmas Confused

choccyp1g · 06/12/2010 16:20

Bear in mind that if OP has taken the advice that almost all posters have given, she will have her boy at home with her today, and will be giving him lots of attention, so she is not likely to be chatting on MN. I
hope she does come back to update us though.

wendihouse22 · 06/12/2010 21:13

How's it going this week? What did you do?

Curiousmama · 07/12/2010 09:26

Yes hope she did take him out poor darling boy Sad

IWantToBeAFairyWhenIGrowUp · 07/12/2010 09:42

I hope you are ok OP and hope you little boy is feeling a bit happier this week after the weekend off.

Animation · 07/12/2010 11:00

I would have thought the OP would come back to update us.

It was one hell of a distressing story she posted there, and she got some great support on here.

I just hope she doesn't let things run on any longer, without DOING something.

Doobydoo · 07/12/2010 11:10

op..hAVEN'T READ ALL OTHER POSTS YET.sIMILAR THING HAPPENED WITH OUR DS1.We took him out and home edded for abit and then found a school[small]where he had fab time.He was there 2 terms and is now at secondary.Will read thread now.I really feel for you and your poor ds.

welshbyrd · 07/12/2010 11:34

Ive just close to tears reading your post, I feel so sorry for your DS, -take him out of the school, find him a new one please.
Overload him with love, and never make him step another foot in that awful school.

pranma · 07/12/2010 12:07

Please find him a new school from next term.Keep him safe from the bullies including the teacher who sounds a disgrace to the profession.

TermFromHell · 07/12/2010 12:11

Hiya everybody! Sorry for my v.v.v late response - it's been a very busy and emotional time.....

Firstly, may I apologise for my appallingly misspelled OP! I typed it in an emotional rush, shall we say and it is littered with typos and grammatical errors that I wouldn't normally have made!!! Added to it being so bloody long, it's a wonder any of you read it at all!!! Grin

I'll keep this short: we're looking for a new school.

I kept DS at home. He is happier already! But a meeting with the school went much worse that I expected. I actually expected them to offer me something - some kind of apology or reassurance that the matter would be dealt with but none was forthcoming. It was so disappointing. I felt patronised and backed into a corner. My complaints weren't taken seriously (I felt) and my DP's comments were disregarded also. They were staggeringly arrogant, refused to record the issues as a 'complaint' and would only address DS's problems as a 'concern'. They at least didn't deny that bullying takes place occasionally in their school (as it does in any school) but there was no talk of how it would be dealt with. They even went so far as to suggest that my DS had possibly 'misinterpreted some situations'!!! I was livid - I just said; "well I know what I saw - are you going to try and tell me I misinterpreted that too?!" It was like we had no rights at all - they couldn't offer me any alternatives whatsoever. It was like they couldn't care less that my DS was being essentially left to rot. It honestly felt like a stand off.....

I ended the meeting by handing them a transcript of everything DS had said to me when he broke down and told them that no parent in their right mind would want to send a child into that toxic atmosphere everyday. My DP added that they'd be cutting their nose off to spite their face, as DS is a good student and could have produced some decent results for their school. Oh well - their loss, someone else's gain.....

I think I will complain higher up, but I want to get DS sorted into a new school first. The LEA office opens at 13:00 so I'll be ringing them then to ask for a list of schools with vacancies. With any luck, we'll be able to get him in somewhere straight after Christmas - preferably a smaller school with excellent pastoral care. I am also looking up tips on raising children's self esteem and assertiveness and thinking about clubs too; (he's good a football and running and maybe acting classes would help him out no end?!). I'll also be taking him to the GP about possible SEN issues.....

Can I just say thank you all so much for the overwhelming support on here?! You ladies (and maybe some men!) have been absolutely amazing and I hugely appreciate your kind words and excellent advice. It's heartening to know that my little boy has a bunch of strangers on the net wishing him well and I'm using that knowledge to support him as best I can. Thanks again, from the bottom of my heart.....

xxx

OP posts:
anastaisia · 07/12/2010 12:12

I'd go do what Doobydoo did: deregister him immediately; give him some home ed time out to recover and start to enjoy learning again and then look for a new school (actually; I'd just home ed - but if I was in your position and wanted to use school)

anastaisia · 07/12/2010 12:14

oops, x-posted

Sounds like you have a plan of what you're going to do. Good luck :)

Miggsie · 07/12/2010 12:20

TermfromHell, I would also report the school to Ofsted as failing in their duty of care

gettingmylifeback · 07/12/2010 12:21

Good for you Term

You are doing the best for your DS. You won't regret it.

If I was you, I'd complain formally, over the heads of the teacher/head - but in all honesty you're probably not going to get closure with the school.

And concentrate on making your wee boy happy, secure and find him a lovely new school where he'll be happy.

And you will. I did. My DD2 is devastated that school is closed today. I never thought when she was at her old school that I'd hear her say that.

lemonmuffin · 07/12/2010 12:24

Glad you've come back op, it's good to hear your ds is out of that dreadful place, hopefully you'll now start to get your bright happy little boy back.

5DollarShake · 07/12/2010 12:24

I am late to this, but for the first time on MN I was moved to tears by your OP. Your son is lucky to have you sticking up for him, and I can't believe how utterly useless and arrogant his school sounds. I honestly would take this further, if only to prevent it happening to another poor soul.

Regardless, taking him away from this poisonous situation is undoubtedly right. Thinking of you and your boy.

deepfriedcupcake · 07/12/2010 12:26

So glad that he's already happier,

So glad that you'll be moving his school,

Appalled at the response from the school, I hope you do complain elsewhere and are able to get a better response from the LEA, governers, anyone who could have an influence. They can't just write you and him off as some irrelevant family and accept the way that teacher looks after those in her care. Glad you got to tell them what you think in the meeting.

Limara · 07/12/2010 12:26

Well done TermFromHell! SO pleased for you! As others have said, take this further. They have been so unprofessional about the whole thing-I feel sorry for the children left behind in their care.

Out of curiosity, what part of the country are you in?

Sounds familiar theme Xmas Wink

Tolalola · 07/12/2010 12:27

Ah that's brilliant - it sounds like the best possible solution is being worked out. So relieved for you and your DS. I've been thinking about your post a lot and hoping that your DS hadn't gone back to school!

Once you're sorted with a new school, I would definitely complain in writing - I don't think they can refuse to acknowledge it if they get a letter stating that you wish it to be registered as a formal complaint.

Acting classes are a really good idea, and martial arts are also brilliant for teaching self confidence and self discipline.

granted · 07/12/2010 12:30

Good luck - another one very moved and angry for you and your son - you sound like you're dealing with it brilliantly, and he sounds like a lovely little lad, who'll shine in a rather better school. Smile

Karma a hopefully Ofsted are coming for that teacher and headteacher, though.

begonyabampot · 07/12/2010 12:31

good luck Op, hope he will be happy in his new school - you are doing everything you can and i agree he needs a fresh start. My friend is going through the same with her 6 yr old, it is so sad and I can't imagine how heartbreaking it must be for her as his mother. I think her son needs a fresh start also as he has been excluded by not only the children but some of the parents who have been hounding her as well at home.

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