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Not sure why it rankles

147 replies

ARepleteHmmSkiNun · 01/12/2010 23:11

Hello I changed my name as I only post on other boards. Not that I post very often anyway. I don't generally feel the need to comment or ask advice but I find myself thinking about something too much in my opinion. I don't really know why and it annoys me.
Anyway I went to a neighbour's house to ask them something. They tend to keep themselves to themselves but are ok. I spent about 20 minutes there discussing this and that, questions, answers, bit of humour all the normal stuff. Anyway the husband mentioned something about cricket. I don't know anything about cricket really and told an old joke about Pakistan and the world cup, which was actually a joke about football which I know just as little about. Then her husband told some joke about flying carpets exploding which I must admit I don't quite remember. Anyway she gave her husband one of those looks (often given by those who are a bit socially insecure to their significant other when actually directing their comments at the other person in the room but looking for support and agreement from their partner - do you know what I mean?) and said that Peter (their son of about 13) would say that what her husband said was racist and that you can learn from young people you know. The husband and I continued the conversation without reference to her point as I, and perhaps him, felt a little embarrassed, because it quite obviously begged the question from me as to why it was racist.

So the point being, imo she was being particularly English and indirect/dishonest and accusing me of being racist. I certainly am not. I think she is the type of person who is very quick to find offence on other people's behalf when none exists, cetainly not detectable by the sort of person she assumes she is "protecting"
I do dislike dishonesty, hypocrisy and the type of naive liberalism (the type of liberalism which is derived from a general social theory of being "nice" but actually never rigorously looks at the consequences of its actions) which seems common nowadays.
Am I reading too much into this? I don't know why it rankles. Perhaps I shouldn't find it offensive to be called a racist by a person who is too stupid to realise she is racist, but perhaps it is better to let such things go in a casual social encounter with one's neighbours. Perhaps it rankles because I should have brought her up on it and asked her why she thought that but I only popped round to ask something and didn't want to get drawn into a long political/sociological discussion.

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BeerTricksPotter · 02/12/2010 09:49

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RockinRobinBird · 02/12/2010 09:53

I read this in the small hours and put my lack of comprehension down to tiredness. In the cold light of day I still have no idea what's going on... Confused

AnyFuleSno · 02/12/2010 09:54

It's JAMEELAQ or I'll eat my hat.

Shouldn't you be on the daily mail comment boards darling?

onceamai · 02/12/2010 10:04

Over analysis. why did you go round in the first place to ask "something" when they keep themselves to themselves?

tethersjinglebellend · 02/12/2010 10:09

I think I'd probably keep myself to myself if s/he were my neighbour.

LaWeaselMys · 02/12/2010 10:13

In fairness, this kept me quite entertained when I was up last night. Was sad when they stopped posting.

Anything else you'd like tj ramble about today?

OneFishTwoFish · 02/12/2010 10:17

I am Confused.

RealityVom · 02/12/2010 10:21

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PrincessFiorimonde · 02/12/2010 10:27

If I were a young person or a student (as scolded at by OP), would any of this make sense to me?

TragicallyHip · 02/12/2010 10:30

What the blardy hell is going on Xmas Confused

JoBettany · 02/12/2010 10:48

I am very glad I am not the only one who is completely lost!

EldritchCleavage · 02/12/2010 11:11

Just read whole thread.

What I really want is to know what the (female) neighbour thinks.

No idea what the OP is getting at except s/he doesn't really seem to like English people very much. I would post a biscuit but I don't do emoticons.

RockinRobinBird · 02/12/2010 11:13

Reality that sounds like quite a tall order :o

RockinRobinBird · 02/12/2010 11:24

What's an ideal utopia? That must be really really good.

Hullygully · 02/12/2010 11:25

Yes

Anyone got any good tit jokes?

MIFLAW · 02/12/2010 11:39

"As we say in Gambia. ?There is no arse as funny as an unfunny arse?

As we say in the UK, fuck off.

MIFLAW · 02/12/2010 11:39

And as we also say in the UK, a paragraph is defined by a change of topic, not just by whether you have hit the bloody "return" key.

MIFLAW · 02/12/2010 11:44

"or "pakis"
as MIFLAW would refer to them"

You've taken an ironic remark out of context and you know you have.

But if that counts for you as scoring a point - like saying I had pm'ed you when I hadn't - then have that one on me.

"in an ideal utopia" - this is a tautological statement.

And you are very far from being as clever as you think you are.

Teaandchristmascakeplease · 02/12/2010 11:44

I've just read this and none of it makes any sense to me. And the OP still didn't tell us what the jokes actually were at any point Xmas Confused

Bear anyone?

GetOrfMoiLand · 02/12/2010 11:44

Oh I absolutely LOVE the OP.

Look at this as an example of a nugget of sheer brilliance

"As I say to my husband, there is the real world and there is a strange new Western dystopia. Where will it lead? "Suutoyediyaa" as we say in my country"

Please don't be frightened off OP. We could get years of fun out of you on here.

MIFLAW · 02/12/2010 11:48

"Above we have a prime example of a major problem in today's society."

Presumably this refers to the original post at the top of my screen.

LaWeaselMys · 02/12/2010 11:51

Come back OP! Let's talk about utopia some more. Xmas Grin

LoudRowdyDuck · 02/12/2010 11:55

Oh, this is wonderful! I thought this thread would go in a fit of pique and the OP never to be seen again. But no, it's still here to cheer up my morning's footnoting.

Lovely.

Anyone for a nice hot cocoa while we cosy up around the fire?

Lydwatt · 02/12/2010 11:56

ok...OP is snowed in somewhere...its right bored his/her tits off (see, i got a slightly dodgy potentially sexist ref in there!)...and so s/he has decided to wind up everyone else in MN for fun!!!

Job done OP!

ARepleteHmmSkiNun · 02/12/2010 12:07

You should really stick to the argument not call people names. Firstly and rightly so Mumsnet don?t like it, secondly it is childish and thirdly it is completely irrelevant.
Isn?t that how racism starts? Calling people names?
How can you live with yourself miflaw et al, going round calling people things like stupid and mad and insane? Would you think it right if someone listened to what you had to say and then called you a rapist and Marxist stooge with unresolved personal issues that you project upon the world as you are too stupid to understand a simple book like 1984? I remember an essay by Hazlitt called ?the ignorance of the learned? You should try giving that a read for starters.

Only when jokes have become criminal acts do we know that the dark ages have returned. Thought-crime is almost here and unless libertarians speak up it will be here very soon. Thankfully I have just realised that of the half a million members of mumsnet your vile, hateful, lunatic and oppressive views based on blind ignorance and hate probably only account for 0.0001% of the population

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