To cook spuds in goose fat for vegi BIL at xmas

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I'd imagine most vegi's would think IABVU?

DH's family are with us for Christmas. They'll be 11 of us to cook for and BIL with obviously need something to replace the Turkey, no problem.
He'll also need separate gravy, hardly any bother.
I usually make a couple of stuffings and make sure one is meat free, again, no bother.
He also likes to have some vegi sausages to replace the pigs in blankets.

I like to do a good job with xmas dinner and I love doing the spuds in goose fat.
I ponder over this every time we have them for xmas. It's a PITA having to pretty much cook a separate vegi dinner alongside a traditional one, find space in the oven and get all the timings right.

Would it really hurt, for one day, if he was unknowingly more flexible?

The rest of the year when we see them, I just make something vegi for all of us, but this is xmas dinner and I like going to town a bit.

So;
a. Would he notice?
b. Would it be really, really bad?

A little off topic, I admit, but how do you do veggie pigs in blankets? Whenever I've tried, the 'bacon' just cooks to a crumbly, cremated crisp and falls off the 'sausages'.

I've been veggie for about 20 years and I'd rather not go to someone's house for dinner, if it's going to be a problem. Years ago, when being veggie was still a bit 'odd' I would have understood, but it's not hard to microwave a bit of Quorn and cook your potatoes in olive oil, is it?

"I was at university with a bloke like your stepson GOML. He was a total pita because he insisted on separate pans for his stuff and plates so that no animal products ever touched anything he ate. Then one day me and my friend happened upon him scoffing chocolate digestives in the kitchen when he thought he was alone in the flat"

Heh heh

I've know two "vegetarians" who've done similar things, one being my brother. My mum caught him wolfing down a Steak Fray Bentos (boke) when he had a rabid hangover.

They just like to be attention seekers.

OP, give him the goose fat. If he whines, then tell him to get his mitts out when the tin of Quality Street is being passed around later :)

FFS, I cant believe you need to ask this. Of course it's bloody unreasonable.

Apparenlty it is mrskbw, and apparently vegetarians are idiots.. I'm confused by this thread.

If you think about your food choices and make a decision to eat things that will cause less cruelty. You are an idiot. If you eat anything and with out questioning it, you are very clever.

I posted in the summer about my stepson going out and getting plastered, and buying half a chicken from nandos and waking up in his bed surrounded by the bones.

I was mixed between laughter and outrage at the fact that when he was pissed his morals went out the window. But he was genuinely utterly remorseful bless him.

DP takes the piss mildly, if stepson has a drink he says 'go and hide the steaks getorf' in that stupid way that fathers do. Dstepson rolls his eyes.

so, drinking organic milk is the same as eating a dead animal, or something that contains a dead animal? Jesus fucking christ, this is a man who would never comment on someone eating meat (including me!) but who appears to be fair game to some people on here - why?

cunting by name cunting by nature I guess.

I do question my choices thanks, evildead. I buy free-range organic chicken and lamb and have only bought organic milk and eggs for years. Don't assume that just because I am a meat-eater that I don't think about the food I buy.

Evildead, are you a vegetarian or a vegan, just out of interest?

I'm not an angry vegetarian, just think it's horrible not to consider someone's choice as a valid one.

growing up, having a vehemently meat-eating dad, we never had roasties done in goose fat, gravy made with meat stock or meat stuffing.

so, basically, I could eat anything on christmas dinner except the meat. (which my dad tried to force on me every year without fail )

that's the point - i don't see why OP you need to have meat stuffing or meat stock gravy etc etc.

just get paxo (or make your own sage and onion stuffing), and cook your roasties in veg oil (not olive cos that's gross)

It's not the same, susitwoshoes because no-one suggested that he eat a DEAD ANIMAL. It is an animal BY PRODUCT same as MILK. So yes it is the same.

Sorry that you need such a simple notion spelling out to you.

I am on the dukan diet at the moment and ams spending a fortune on meat and eggs.

I have stopped buying free range and organic otherwise I would be skint by Christmas.

At the risk of getting a double flaming (although I wouldn't mind I'm bloody cold atm!)

I'm intrigued at the idea he would notice. So I'm now contemplating accidently slipping one goose fat spud onto his separate dish of spuds for the table.
The vegi pigs in blankets are definately going to have to give way, there's only so much room in my oven.

ps: it's not realistic for most vegetarians to be vegan - that's why we buy organic milk and eggs, so that we can at least ensure that the animals are treated well.

Mind you after 3 weeks of NO CARBS why am I on this bloody thread salivating about roast potatoes.

No wonder i am so angry and bitchy.

Obviously, yes.

OP - NO it's not fair.

regardless of whether he'll notice, it's not fair .

why can't you understand that?

Gordon ramsey did a similar thing and really got overjoyed when he admitted that he'd fed the veggies meat.

Why is your BIL's wish and choice less valid than yours?

Veggie pigs in blankets, I ask you.

i'm still confused as what you'd use for the blankets, tbh.

i don't like stuff that pretends to be meat.

Organic doesn't always mean the animals are treated well though. Ditto free range. It's a bloody minefield.

susitwoshoes, I don't get your dhs logic - he won't eat red food colouring cos of the beetles, but he will contribute to the dairy industry which has terrible animal cruelty?

Bupcakes is right, its madness and a case of picking and choosing which bits you agree with and which bits make your life easier.

I used to be a veggie, am now vegan, and god, was i hypocritical when i look back.
I could ignore the gnawing guilt everytime i had cheese, no longer, hence the giving up of all dairy.

Goose fat is not the fucking same as milk! They don't extract the fat from a living goose you know.

Carrot peelings?

hahaha, Getorf's a <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=hippiekiller.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/troll.jpg&imgrefurl=hippiekiller.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/on-trolls/&usg=__WKW7zD6qENMSnDd80UWVwp9Qoa0=&h=300&w=400&sz=119&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=STGlxwyd_QYcbM:&tbnh=153&tbnw=205&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtroll%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dh45%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26biw%3D1386%26bih%3D447%26tbs%3Disch:1%26prmd%3Divn&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=302&vpy=87&dur=388&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=94&ty=134&ei=svf0TNOIH4T2vwPNnIH6Bg&oei=svf0TNOIH4T2vwPNnIH6Bg&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tro-oll, GetOrf's a <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=images.huffingtonpost.com/2010-05-13-troll0.jpg&imgrefurl=www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-w-silberberg/troll-patrol_b_574004.html&usg=__vL9Mcj3PCSwCTf8dKqA5ks3jieU=&h=360&w=300&sz=13&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=bHBlxawwgxYnkM:&tbnh=153&tbnw=128&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtroll%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dh45%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26biw%3D1386%26bih%3D447%26tbs%3Disch:1%26prmd%3Divn&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=878&vpy=61&dur=1465&hovh=246&hovw=205&tx=137&ty=142&ei=9_f0TNT2NImosQPt2LymCw&oei=svf0TNOIH4T2vwPNnIH6Bg&esq=6&page=1&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tro-oll, Getorf's a <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=farm2.static.flickr.com/1188/1304424555_c2475785b8.jpg&imgrefurl=flickr.com/photos/8203096%40N08/1304424555/&usg=__jMUaWu4eXolkZrFMQg1GF45rXDQ=&h=379&w=500&sz=118&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=6mzg6_wwkdFmZM:&tbnh=155&tbnw=224&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dred%2Bsmarties%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DJ65%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26biw%3D1386%26bih%3D447%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=754&vpy=177&dur=372&hovh=195&hovw=258&tx=175&ty=146&ei=Rvj0TOaRCoP2tgO1w53vCw&oei=Fvj0TOvhCY-SuwPh9qSHBw&esq=18&page=1&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tro-oll

bupcakesandcunting - Would you feed Jewish and Muslim guests who say they don't eat pork food with bacon in it?

I am a vegetarian, I was a vegan in the states, but felt that it wasn't as necessary in Europe due to differing animal welfare rules. I buy freerange organic.

I will be vegan again in April when I move home.

Go on tell me I'm an idiotic vegetarian because I am not a vegan.

Why do you buy free range? The animal still dies, does that make you an idiot? No I assume unless you eat it for quality reasons you do it because it helps- even a little. Just because someone is not a vegan doesn't mean they don't want to do something.

And as I said I have been given food in the past and was told it was vegetarian (I always check myself now) and became very ill. I can't handle the grease anymore

I often roll my eyes at my "veggie" friend who has a rampant Haribo habit (gelatine central) but has to check that gravies don't contain any meat stock.

My favourite of her so far was at sunday lunch here a few months back. I always put all of the food onto serving plates so everyone just has what they like. I made the gravy with veggie granules and told her that it was fine for her. She was very happy about that. Then i said "but the roast spuds have been in with the joint so you might want to leave those" She didn't though. She just likes to be different, bless her.