To cook spuds in goose fat for vegi BIL at xmas

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I'd imagine most vegi's would think IABVU?

DH's family are with us for Christmas. They'll be 11 of us to cook for and BIL with obviously need something to replace the Turkey, no problem.
He'll also need separate gravy, hardly any bother.
I usually make a couple of stuffings and make sure one is meat free, again, no bother.
He also likes to have some vegi sausages to replace the pigs in blankets.

I like to do a good job with xmas dinner and I love doing the spuds in goose fat.
I ponder over this every time we have them for xmas. It's a PITA having to pretty much cook a separate vegi dinner alongside a traditional one, find space in the oven and get all the timings right.

Would it really hurt, for one day, if he was unknowingly more flexible?

The rest of the year when we see them, I just make something vegi for all of us, but this is xmas dinner and I like going to town a bit.

So;
a. Would he notice?
b. Would it be really, really bad?

It would be lazy, sick and totally unacceptable.

For what it's worth I'm a committed carnivore too, but it's not about meat eaters vs veggies, it's about manners and care. If you hate your BIL and don't mind if he chooses not to speak to you ever again then go ahead and lie to him. On the other hand if you rather like and respect him and he's basically a nice guy, and if you're also basically a nice person then respect his life choice and cater for him. As I said shove a large potato in the microwave if necessary, it's hardly an effort...

you would be VU to do that.
I think you either have to roast the spuds in non-animal fat, or do him some separate.

Perhaps ask him first - I know some 'veggies' would probably choose to just eat them & enjoy every bite.

Depends why he is a vegetarian I guess.

I am veggie because I have a bit of a dead animal phobia and to eat something that was living and had fur turns my stomach tbh, In which case a bit of goose fat wouldn't bother me because it isn't actually dead flesh.

If your BIL is one for health reasons - ie doesn't like the idea of eating intensively farmed foods or too much red meat then a bit of goose fat ain't gonna hurt.

If he combines that with concern for the ethical treatment of animals then you could get around it by having free range goose fat.

If he just objects to killing animals for food, then, like your Christmas Turkey, you're stuffed basically.

I am sure you could squeeze 4 potatoes in veg oil into the smallest oven proof dish you can find.

I think it's a bit much him expecting you to do a veggie version of pigs in blankets
why doesn't he bring his own? Does he bring anything? Do they ever have you round for Xmas dinner?

just dont give him roast pots an explain no room in oven. sounds like threr will be plenty on his plate anyway.

Oh OK IABU then...

I would like to point out however, for those of you who think I'm a cunt and a bitch for considering it. BIL used to make an exception at xmas and eat xmas pud because he liked it even though it used to have suet in it!
And AS I mentioned, his wife wasn't that shocked when I mentioned it a few years ago, she said he probably wouldn't notice.

YAB totally U.

If you find anyone else who thinks this is reasonable I'll bare my arse in Top Shop window.

Hahahahahahah

no, really, YABU

Unless he's a horrible person and then you're not

It does not depend on why he is vegetarian. If he is vegetarian, he does not eat meat or meat products.

If catering for your vegetarian BIL is such a pain that you are considering this, maybe you should just not invite him next year. It is just so mean spirited.

Ahhhh AIBU by stealth...

well tell him, give him the option. It's still unbelievably cunty to trick someone, even if you think they might not mind.

Oh, if he used to eat non-veggie xmas pud that is a bit different.

Can't you ask him rather than his wife 'do you want goosefat roasties or a microwaved jacket' (or whatever you can accommodate)

YABVU.

i do think yabu
i am a veggie and have been for nearly 5 years now, fwiw when i have eaten meat products unknowingly and unintentionally i feel sick to the point of almost throwing up. please don't spoil his christmas whenit wouldn't take up much room to put in some aunt bessie's roasties for him - and please put them on separate tray - the meat juices leaking onto the potatoes would mean they were no longer veggie-friendly and therefore a complete waste of your time and effort into cooking separate things for him so that he coudl join in what is going to be a lovely christmas meal xx

So ask him then, upfront "do you want goose fat roasties or a microwave spud? Your choice" That way you've done your bit and you'll be able to plan accordingly. I really don't see what's so difficult about all this?

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Ah, as I thought. He probably eats biscuits with animal fat in them too. Perhaps sweets with gelatin? If he eats Christmas Pud, why don't you just tell him the potatoes are done in goose fat and let him decide. I bet he eats them.

heck.
separate

ffs

If you really thought it was so reasonable you wouldn't be asking. He may have chosen to eat christmas pudding but that was his choice.

What are you trying to do aurora?

YABU plus really rude and disrespectful.

How about just telling BIL "I couldn't be arsed to do you separate potatoes so you can either eat the ones in goose fat or go without"

And yes, he'll probably notice anyway - I can tell if a chip shop uses beef fat to cook their chips just from the smell outside.

If someone did this to me and I found out, I would be so pissed off that our relationship wouldn't be the same again.

Sorry, should have remembered the xmas pud thing.
I do like him, he's a nice bloke and the reason I asked his wife is that she's more reasonable about things sometimes and he's never cooked a meal in his life, so would have no idea what a juggle it can be cooking for a largeish number of people.

I think I know AIBU really which is why I've bottled out the last few xmas's we've had them over.
I was hoping lots of people would say, "It's only one day" "What he doesn't know won't hurt him"...etc...And suddenly xmas dinner could become slightly less complicated.

gosh - I am veggie but don't think it is a life and death situation. And for what it's worth, I think you are being very good cooking all this separate stuff for him. I would suggest he brought his own stuff to be warmed up.