To cook spuds in goose fat for vegi BIL at xmas

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I'd imagine most vegi's would think IABVU?

DH's family are with us for Christmas. They'll be 11 of us to cook for and BIL with obviously need something to replace the Turkey, no problem.
He'll also need separate gravy, hardly any bother.
I usually make a couple of stuffings and make sure one is meat free, again, no bother.
He also likes to have some vegi sausages to replace the pigs in blankets.

I like to do a good job with xmas dinner and I love doing the spuds in goose fat.
I ponder over this every time we have them for xmas. It's a PITA having to pretty much cook a separate vegi dinner alongside a traditional one, find space in the oven and get all the timings right.

Would it really hurt, for one day, if he was unknowingly more flexible?

The rest of the year when we see them, I just make something vegi for all of us, but this is xmas dinner and I like going to town a bit.

So;
a. Would he notice?
b. Would it be really, really bad?

gnawed!

HOWLING at "Would the angry vegetarians please stop flaming the OP, you wouldn't treat an animal like that..." very funny

Do all these veggies drink cows milk? - the most disheartening animal by-product.

You can get veggie cheese.

Most wine isn't veggie.

I did wonder about "gnawed", Quint

Are your roasties really tough then?

Most things aren't totally veggie. That's why vegetarians are morons. I have total respect for vegans but not for the mouthbreathers shreiking and wailing about a bit of goose fat when they probably bath in yoghurt and mainline wine through their eyeballs.

Idiots.

Just buy him one of those little tin trays of ready to roast veg that you just pop in.

I won't even say how unreasonable you are being, because as a veggy I have ended up violently ill when similar has happened to me. Unless you want your BIL to spend xmas day on the pan wishing he was dead you need to sort yourself ou. God that's horrible

bupcakesandcunting - no, he isn't a vegan, he eats vegetarian cheese (like cheddar), and milk and eggs. But not cheese that has rennet in it (like parmesan) or red smarties now that they use natural (squashed beetles) rather than artificial colouring. He was a bit miffed when they did that.

Decision made. I'm knocking the vegi sausages on the head. That should make a space in the oven for some separate spuds.

I will have to pretend I forgot them though,not just decided not to bother or I'll get a look.

I don't mind doing the extra bits, its just fitting them all in the oven!

I realise IABU, which is why I've wrestled with this over the last few years. But I can be a bit of a bitch when someone annoys me

I'm sure if we were to go to them for Christmas. BIL wouldn't be cooking and if he was we'd all eat vegi for xmas.

bupcakesandcunting

Yes we're all idiots.

I always thought that veggies didn't eat honey because it was bee puke.

Found out the other day it is actually because bees are killed when honey is harvested.

I must say i am not that sympathetic to the bee plight. They come and try to lick your jam, and thing sting you when you swat them away, violent little fuckers.

and your last comment was totally uncalled for. FFS. Moran and idiot yourself

Sorry, but you are being a bit unreasonable. I am a vegetarian, but I am a rubbsih one and don't check labels for gelatine etc. and have even been known to pick pepperoni off a pizza and eat the rest of it. I just hate eating big lumps of flesh. So I probably wouldn't mond eating roasties cooked in goose fat, espec if I didn't know. BUT, if I had another veggie round for dinner, I would respect their wishes. E.g. my MIL is coming round for dinner tonight, and she isn't a veggie but I know she doesn't eat much meat, and I plan to cook a green veg curry. I checked with dp to make sure she definitely eats fish as I know the green curry paste has fish sauce in it.

Plus, I don't think you'll get away with him not knowing. As I'm so used to eating veg fats and oils, solid, saturated fats like butter etc leave a kind of film in my mouth when I eat them...

why do you do 2 stuffings?? Just do paxo, its veggie anyway! You planning this far advance, of what is just a meal at the end of the day, is all rather up yourself if you don't mind me saying.Plus your dismissiveness of BILs ethics makes you look like a right selfish sod.
If someone tried to give me duck fat, I'd knock them out.

BTW you would not get away with it, he'd taste it immediately, and you would look like a right twat round the dinner table.

can't you bung a veggy sausage in the same pan as the veg?

He'll drink milk but not eat red smarties?! Where's the logic?

Urgh, I must say I would rather have red food colouring made from petrol or amphetamine or something, than crushed beetles.

I see no "shrieking and wailing about a bit of goosefat", Bupcakesandbunting. What I do see is a lot of shock that someone would consider doing something so underhand to an apparently entirely inoffensive relative.

There are many reasons why people are vegetarian - it's just one of a whole range of dietary choices. My reaction to eating meat is extremely similar to my DP's fairly mild peanut allergy - violent vomitting and feeling rubbish for several hours afterwards (although I don't get the pleasure of the bursting blood-vessels in my eyes and nose).
I don't suppose anyone would think he was unreasonable to not wish to be fed peanuts in the hope that he didn't notice, so why are vegetarians fair game?

"bupcakesandcunting - no, he isn't a vegan, he eats vegetarian cheese (like cheddar), and milk and eggs. But not cheese that has rennet in it (like parmesan) or red smarties now that they use natural (squashed beetles) rather than artificial colouring. He was a bit miffed when they did that."

So he'll drink milk (if he's so concerned by animal welfare he might want to look a bit more closely at the ethics of dairy farming) but you say he would kick off at goose fat?

I think that that is what most of us would call being a hypocrite. Or just awkward.

Look, few vegetarians are perfect. Pretty much all of them have to contribute to animal slaughter in some way (such as consuming dairy products).

I don't see that scoffing the odd goose fat roasted potato is much different tbh.

The angry vegetarians on this thread don't come across terribly well, imo. I'd wager that maybe some of them actually are idiots.

Can you still buy Findus crispy pancakes? I used to love those.

I was at university with a bloke like your stepson GOML. He was a total pita because he insisted on separate pans for his stuff and plates so that no animal products ever touched anything he ate. Then one day me and my friend happened upon him scoffing chocolate digestives in the kitchen when he thought he was alone in the flat :o

Anyway - back to the OP. I'd do mash beforehand and reheat in the microwave. Sounds like you're bending over backwards as it is.

I wish someone would cook me some roasties in goose fat and not tell me

I've been veggie for 21 years am 7 weeks pg and craving chicken??!! haven't given in and haven't told DH as he is a rampant carnivore and would heckle me forever more

sorry, just totally hijacked the thread to waffle on about pregnancy cravings and feel a bit sorry for myself about the lack of edible food in my house

as you were

x-post with bupcakes

"I don't suppose anyone would think he was unreasonable to not wish to be fed peanuts in the hope that he didn't notice, so why are vegetarians fair game?"

Choosing vegetarianism as a dietary choice isn't the same as having a peanut or any other allergy, really.

Making Smarties out of crushed beetles is genius, I think. No one likes beetles and everyone loves Smarties. What's not to like?

Just need a nice friendly company to buy Smarties off the Nestle bastards and then I'd happily eat the red ones.

Smarties are rubbish these days though. The colours are crap.

I like beetles. I liked them ever since I read AA Milne's beetle poem about Alexander beetle.