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To cook spuds in goose fat for vegi BIL at xmas

314 replies

MeMudmagnet · 30/11/2010 11:30

I'd imagine most vegi's would think IABVU?

DH's family are with us for Christmas. They'll be 11 of us to cook for and BIL with obviously need something to replace the Turkey, no problem.
He'll also need separate gravy, hardly any bother.
I usually make a couple of stuffings and make sure one is meat free, again, no bother.
He also likes to have some vegi sausages to replace the pigs in blankets.

I like to do a good job with xmas dinner and I love doing the spuds in goose fat.
I ponder over this every time we have them for xmas. It's a PITA having to pretty much cook a separate vegi dinner alongside a traditional one, find space in the oven and get all the timings right.

Would it really hurt, for one day, if he was unknowingly more flexible?

The rest of the year when we see them, I just make something vegi for all of us, but this is xmas dinner and I like going to town a bit.

So;
a. Would he notice?
b. Would it be really, really bad?

OP posts:
GrimmaTheNome · 30/11/2010 12:01

aurorastargazer, I don't think its possible to combine more than one style. (try using preview to experiment next time Grin)

rodformyownback · 30/11/2010 12:03

YABVVVVVU. If you don't want to cook veggie roasties that's your decision, but to knowingly give meat to a vegetarian without telling them is disrespectful and violating. I feel a bit sick thinking about it. And I'm not even veggie!

Surely if you really can't be arsed you could just buy some pre prepared taters from the supermarket and wedge them in a corner of the oven?

He will probably notice anyway - I hope for his sake and yours he thinks that you genuinely forgot to tell him.

GetOrfMoiLand · 30/11/2010 12:03

I think this is a horrible thing to do. What a bitch.

I am a complete carnivore, but my dstepson is a vegan for animal welfare reasons, and he would be incredibly upset if I did this to him. It is a nasty breach of trust.

I did forget one year - just in the middle of Christmas stuff forgot to do spuds seperately for him. Remembered at the last minute and had to quickly make him some alternative potatoes. I wouldn't have dreamed of shoving goose fat spuds on his plate.

And for god sake stop being a martyr OP - yes you have got 11 for dinner, big deal. It is only a jumped up roast dinner. It's not hard.

Othersideofthechannel · 30/11/2010 12:04

Sorry, only read the OP. I don't eat meat. I would rather be told the pots were cooked in animal fat and go without even on Christmas day. I would hate to be deceived.

peeringintothevoid · 30/11/2010 12:05

Shock Hmm

Er yes, YABVU and rude! As others said, just do a few for him in a separate tray, or buy some aunt bessies.

SaggyHairyArse · 30/11/2010 12:05

Do him a jacket potato and tell him why. You cannot knowingly give him roast potatoes cookedin animal fat, no.

Porcelain · 30/11/2010 12:06

Veggie suet is pretty decent stuff. A lot of shop mince pies and puddings are veggie nowadays, the meat eaters wouldnt notice.

aurorastargazer · 30/11/2010 12:06

dearprudence Grin- i was trying to highlight, embolden and underscore some text and couldn't get it to work, hence my language sorry Blush

Merrylegs · 30/11/2010 12:07

ROFL at the all the apoplectic non-veggies on this thread!

Ormirian · 30/11/2010 12:07

Yes. If it's that much hassle buy some ready made ones and roast a few seperately for him. At the very least tell him so he can avoid them.

TheChamomileLawn · 30/11/2010 12:07

He'll be able to taste it, you'll be shown up, don't do it.

GetOrfMoiLand · 30/11/2010 12:07

X post with the OP's subsequent post re him eating suet.

Dstepson won't eat anything which has been cooked at the same time as meat - so can't just shove a plate of roasties in the oven with the goose fat ones.

It is a pita but it's faaaaaamily, innit

chicaguapa · 30/11/2010 12:08

Lol! I think the BIL is being unreasonable getting a separate meal on Christmas day! I would expect him to bring his own meal tbh. If I went to a veggie's house for Christmas day I wouldn't expect a separate turkey meal! Fwiw I don't think it's right to cook his spuds in goose fat and not tell him, but I would have had the same dilemma too in your situation.

QuintessentialShadows · 30/11/2010 12:08

jacket potato is a good idea. It is foilwrapped, so protected from the animal fat in the roasting tin.

But op is hardly a bitch! Shock She is cooking TWO christmas dinners, to accommodate 11 people including a vegetarian!

Lizbertnobacon · 30/11/2010 12:08

I have always been a veggie and would go effing WILD if someone knowingly fed me roasts cooked in goose fat and passed them off as being veggie friendly. Buy some frozen ones and don't be horrible. Yabvu!!

QuintessentialShadows · 30/11/2010 12:10

So, you veggies, do you always expect other people to cook to your preferred dietary requests alongside the preferences of host and other guests?

Otherwise, people are bitches and horrible?

catinthehat2 · 30/11/2010 12:11

I think most bought Xmas puds use vegetarian suet anyway...

aurorastargazer · 30/11/2010 12:12
GetOrfMoiLand · 30/11/2010 12:12

Nah, you're right Quint, i am very sorry OP for saying you're a bitch.

Thoughtless yes (but understandable re his suet eating exploits) but calling you a bitch is too far. Genuinely sorry Blush

TBH to make it easier for yourself don't bother making him any vegetarian special thing. I never do with stepson. I don't make him a nutroast, or do veggie pigs in blankets. I do make a vegetarian stuffing but only because I cannot stand sausagemeat stuffing anyway. But I do christ knows how many different types of veg so he just piles his plate up with veg, and doesn't go without.

Bollocks to making special pigs in blankets. You do have to draw the line somewhere (and with dstepson I have to siphon off a load of the veg prior to my putting a kilo of butter/honey in)

aurorastargazer · 30/11/2010 12:12

i don't think she is a bitch, i think that the poster who said that may be trolling and tryign to cause argument.

willowstar · 30/11/2010 12:13

unbelievable! I am veggie and I never want anyone to go to extra trouble for me at all. I wouldn't expect you to do different meal for me though I would very much appreciate if you did do something extra.

but it would be terrible to give a veggie something cooked in goose fat. really really terrible. I completely understand you don't want any more hassle so just tell him they are cooked in goose fat and that you can bung in a baked tattie if he likes, or just do a few in a separate pan with butter.

GetOrfMoiLand · 30/11/2010 12:14

Mind you my DP said (re the potaties for stepson a couple of years ago) 'oh just shove a couple on his plate, nobody would ever know' and we had a hissed row in the kitchen at plating up, with all my in laws in the next room.

TheProvincialLady · 30/11/2010 12:14

chica you sound full of Christmas spirit - he's vegetarian so he has to bring his own meal?! If you invite someone you know is a vegetarian, you make them a meal they can eat. Not much of an invitation otherwise is it?

I am vegetarian and I would not cook meat for anyone (mainly because I would not do it competently or safely even), but I would and have bought ready cooked meat for people or been happy for them to bring their own.

If I asked a coeliac for Christmas dinner I would make sure they had a nice Christmas pudding too, not expect them to bring their own.

QuintessentialShadows · 30/11/2010 12:14

Grin I am a self-confessed, and confirmed omnivore, expect gooseliverpate. And possibly some other faux pas....

I am perfectly happy to cater for a hindu diet, a vegetarian diet, but I draw my line at vegan as I have no clue how. But I only cook ONE meal. So, if there is one vegetarian, then EVERYBODY eats the same. Though I can see why the op does not go down that route for Christmas. lol

GetOrfMoiLand · 30/11/2010 12:15

No I am not a troll Hmm

Honest guv.

It is a very underhand thing to do (passing off goose fat spuds as vegetarian) i stand by that.

Not trying to cause a row. Bloody hell.

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