A good job there aren't many men on MN

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I think men would be shocked at the level of resentment leveled at them on MN. Almost a seething mass of contempt at times.

I'm a man, been on here for years. And I was surprised by it.

AIBU to think it's a good job there aren't many men on here, or would more men posting help men and women understand each other better?

I just wanted to point out the sexism of suggesting all women want to be home on flexitime. The very happy full time working mother of a large family doens't get enough press although perhaps that's because people whinging get more and she instead is merrily going about her happy balanced life.

Men don't get enough choices either and anyone who is in favour of fairness should be ensuring either in a couple have a choice if indeed they can afford that.

Xenia you are very wrong about left-wing women not wanted lots of success in full-time work I'm afraid!

As for who on earth wants to look after little babies - it's horses for courses innit. Doesn't really float my boat, certainly, but DH is all for it.

Sweeping generalisations about what men/women want is the root of a lot of these problems.

TSH you can take any opportunity you like to bow down at my superior intellect, if that's what makes you happy don't let me stop you. It's not conceited to notice when people are being thick btw. Or pretending to be.

Xenia it is not sexist to argue that childcare is something the human race needs to do in order for it not to die out. Therefore, to construct a society whcih penalises the people who do the childcare and then blame them for shouldering the penalty, is not only sexist, it's anti-human. What a bizarre way for a supposedly intelligent species to organise things.

Yes, Lenin, as you say evil and powerful.

Gotta watch out for those feminists with their dangerous talk of equal rights and an end to sexual violence and oppression.

If they are not stopped just imagine what could happen - we might end up with equal rights and an end to sexual violence and oppression!

We must use all and any methods available to us including hyperbole, lies, misinterpretation, misrepresentation, spreading of untruths, misquoting them and quoting them out of context, propagandist use of stereotype aaannnndd we'll call them ugly bitches who can't get a man. That will stop anyone wanting to hang out with them and join in this 'Equal Rights' nonsense.

Honestly what are things coming to - we'll have the darkies clamouring for racial equality laws to be enforced soon. You would have thought they would be more than happy that we passed the damn laws in the ruddy first place.

oh and xenia no-one has said that ALL women wnat to stay home and do childcare.

More work life balance would mean fewer women who didn't want to stay home and do childcare, would have to, and would also mean that men who want to, would be able to.

"most men and women adore being around their small children for a few hours a day but why are some women conned into thinking they want to be home and do all that drudgery?"
(1) Are children there just to provide light relief for their parents after a day at work? (2) And give the women a bit more credit here for actively choosing to do what they do. You would accord women kudos for 'choosing' to be in the workplace but they are 'conned' into making a different choice?

Sorry, will stop being mocking silly and interrupting sensible debate about childcare.

feminist-parent stop making snidey comments about me.really a discursive forum is about discussion and you may or may not likey answers or pov of others but certainly its churlish to name call other posters you disagree with

or is that your modus operandi.dismiss and name call?

you know what just as i may disagree with some posters i would never dream of saying oh that whatsherface she a bad un

i am capable of a discussion without namechecking other posters for a harrumph

anyone resorting to namecalling tactic is being peurile

anyway as you were

No BC I'm enjoying the diversions...

what on earth are you own about

No one ever does TSH, thanks.

As usual you are the voice of reason Lenin.

The rest of us have subsided into nortiness.

xenia you have made some v good posts

Lenin you are so very right and sensible and kind.

I am a wee bit of a sucker for a bit of anti-feminist piss taking though. I don't laugh at dead miners but I do laugh at people who don't believe in equality.

Inequality is not funny but I find a bit of humour helps keep morale up.

There is sometimes a teeny element of 'give enough rope......'

"By they way I think it is a very very unfair deal for men against which all woen who want equality should protest if you pay to keep a housewife and she only does part of the task. There are plenty of bad and lazy ones around who yes are happy to hold the baby and change it but they neglect other tasks. If you;re going do the house wife thing it's only fair on the other half if you actually do the job, get on with the scrubbing etc"

Xenia

You make me laugh out loud sometimes.

You don't look like a feminist where is your broom?