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BNP on facebook......should be responsible for the photos on their page

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TheFeministParent · 17/11/2010 08:25

Friend of mine on FB has requested that I report the BNP's facebook page for the most vile language and content. Which I have, I implore everyone to do the same. The photos are disgusting, pictures of dead or dying Africans/Afro-Caribbeans with captions like Funny looking N*er underneath.

It's shocking, you may be able to report it without looking at the photos.

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Gay40 · 17/11/2010 22:24

DP, I wouldn't worry about keeping homosexuality out of schools. It's heterosexuals we need to keep our eye on in schools; after all, the vast majority (97%) of paedophiles are heterosexuals, so really they shouldn't be teaching our kids.

daftpunk · 17/11/2010 22:45

G40;

You're lucky I'm in bed falling asleep. If I had more energy I'd rip your last post apart...

You are a PITA...

G'night

Gay40 · 18/11/2010 02:25

Strange how you always manage to track me down though, considering you "don't go online very much these days".
You're not fooling anyone, DP. Except perhaps yourself.

daftpunk · 18/11/2010 07:47

Ha ha ha
Don't flatter yourself...
Just 3 words to say to you...

In - Your - Dreams

Now I suggest you take the advice you give everyone else -> ignore me.
Ps: I was on this thread first - just like I was on 99% of the other occasions we have "spoken"

Lol

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daftpunk · 18/11/2010 09:56

BTP;

I really can't see where MQ has bullied or attacked you? .... He has tried to understand exactly where you're coming from as your opinions have been all over the place on this thread - all MQ has done is ask you to explain and clarify your posts a bit better.
That's not bullying - that's entering into a debate with someone and trying to get answers and therefore an understanding.
It's rude on your part to not even try to answer MQ when he has taken the time to understand you. ( I know you are under no obligation to answer anyone on here - it's just I've been heavily criticised in the past for not explaining my posts when asked to do so)

mayorquimby · 18/11/2010 09:59

How are they attacks. There's a thread debating an issue. I've asked you to address points you've made when you are asserting your position and once agin you've decided not to address my questions but rather deflect and query why I'm asking the questions and picking you up on your points.
How in the world is asking someone on an anonymous website, who I don't know and have I no personal feelings to one way or the other, to back up their statements and opinions when engaging in a debate "bullying and personal"?
Surely this is how debate works. If you make a point be prepared to back it up. Once again the points have been avoided and instead there's been insinuations that I am carrying some agenda or that somehow this is personal to me (once again when it's concerning someone, who all I know about them is that they picked a jokey/pun log in.).

Do people honestly feel that asking someone to address and back up their points and opinions on a thread is nasty and bullying?

TheFeministParent · 18/11/2010 10:14

MQ....Perhaps BTP just thinks you are wasting valuable thread debate focussing upon the wrong thing, I guess it's hard to remain credible when seemingly arguing for the BNP. Whilst I accept that your points are valid and that this is not the work of the BNP, it is highly probable that the members of this page are BNP supporters. In addition I am wondering why DP has made no comment about the content of this page or contacted the BNP herself to discuss the damage this could have to her beloved party.

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TheFeministParent · 18/11/2010 10:17

BTW I emailed the Army as one of the posters showed his profile picture as a serving soldier somewhere. They have responded saying that they take this sort of thing very seriously.

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daftpunk · 18/11/2010 10:30

Don't worry about it MQ - it wasn't bullying at all - she wasn't able to answer you - end of. ( I'm not sure she even understood the points you were putting to her tbh) I'm guessing she just got a bit embarrassed about entering into a conversation where she was clearly out of her depth.

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TheFeministParent · 18/11/2010 10:33

DP...I notice you haven't made any comment or action regarding photos of black people being mocked for being burned alive or starving in hospital. Is this on purpose or, as I hope, and oversight?

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mayorquimby · 18/11/2010 10:37

"You have picked up an instance of woolly thinking (according to you) and followed it to the conclusion that I am 'thick'.
That's bullying"

No I haven't. I've asked you repeatedly to justify your arguments and you've refused. On one occassion I said that simply ignoring my points and refusing to back up your opinions makes you look "not too bright".
If it has become bullying to ask someone to address there opinions when they are engaging ina debate then how in the world are debates meant to go?
On the other hand you've made insinuations that I have an agenda, am a bully and have intimated that I may be a sympathiser of the BNP. All these were done simply to avoid addressing my points with regards to your arguments.
Once again, with no agenda other than trying to further this debate, I'll ask you to address my points.
Why would you make the statement, "I don't care if it was the real BNP or not" when it is a thread seeking to condemn the BNP for something they have supposedly done? Surely whether they did it or not is relevant when seeking to apportion blame to the party rather than a group of their supporters.

And why would you make the statement, "there silence is support in my book." when a: at first you cared not whether it was them or not
and B: when it was shown that they were in fact not silent on the issue, why did you so quickly abandon your previous stance that silence equated to support. Why was their silence initially so damning to you, but now it is irrelevant so that you need not apportion any signifigance to their actions.

Also how do you justify your logic that I must prove to you that they had absolutely no idea about this, when that is an impossibility. I've asked you repeatedly if you'd accept this line of argument from someone else and you've ignored the question. As I said earlier, would it be a valid argument for me to say "prove to me that you knew nothing about this site a week ago and didn't silently sit back and do nothing. If you can't prove that to me absolutely I will take that as your support of this sire.". I doubt you would because it's a ridiculous argument as it's impossible to prove.

"MQ....Perhaps BTP just thinks you are wasting valuable thread debate focussing upon the wrong thing,"

She may well think that but she has so far failed to explain why this would be a waste of a valuable thread. The thread is focussed on whether or not the BNP should be held responsible for this particular issue, so that is what I have focussed on. This has at no point been a thread on the political ideals or political goals of the BNP as a political party.
I'm debating the issue at hand an asking someone who has taken the opposite stance from me to justify why they have taken such a stance. When I have asked them to justify or explain their positions I have been ignored. When I have repeated the questions I have all of a sudden been accused of being a bully, harassing them,having an agenda, my arguments being personal and even insinuations that I'm somehow sticking up for the BNP as a party.

BeerTricksPotter · 18/11/2010 10:40

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mayorquimby · 18/11/2010 10:43

I haven't once asked you for absolute accuracy.
All I've asked is that you back up your opinions with some semblance of logic or at the very make an attempt at explaining to me how you've reached your positions.

Once again you seem to be deflecting from justifying or explaining the logic of your opinions and own statements.
Nobody has put these words in your mouth so it's not like I'm asking you to explain something you have nothing to do with. You put them forward and all I'm asking for is an explanation of them.
I'm pretty sure anytime someone has addressed a point I've made or asked me to explain my opinions I've at least attempted to do so. Whether they agree with me or not is another matter, but at least I'm attempting to support my own arguments.
My end goal is not to have you agree with me, it's for you to explain the logic of your positions so that I can understand how someone might reach these opinions or employ such reasoning.

daftpunk · 18/11/2010 10:43

BTP ; I said I like you and that's true. I just think you've been a bit of a twit on this thread ( but you're not the only one).... We can disagree on this thread but tomorrow is another day. Maybe later we'll be skipping hand and hand through a field of tulips ... metaphorically speaking.

BeerTricksPotter · 18/11/2010 10:44

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mayorquimby · 18/11/2010 10:48

It's not a matter of me being able to command you to justify your logic to me. It's a matter of entering into a reasoned debate with anyone that if you put forward an opinion or make a statement you should at least be able to articulate and back up that argument with logic and reasoning.

You obviously have no intention of attempting this so debate with you is rather pointless.
However I doubt you or other posters would have so readily accepted an argument from DP had she been the first to post on this thread before we realised it was a rogue site.
for example:
daftpunk: It wasn't the bnp
other posters: how do you know?why do you think that?
DP: I just reckon it wasn't
OP: but why do you think it wasn't them?
DP: Cause that's what I think.
OP: but all the evidence points to it being them. what makes you think it isn't
DP:just don't.

do you think people would have claimed this was bullying?

daftpunk · 18/11/2010 10:48

TFP;
Report anything you find offensive on the Internet to the official BNP F/B site ( anything fake BNP etc) .... I tend to hang out with Tory bastards these days .... although my heart will always be with the BNP...

TheFeministParent · 18/11/2010 10:49

DP...Are you going to take the opportunity to object to the photos and comments or not? Just so I know the next time we meet on MN who I am dealing with.

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