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To think that dd's PE kit was at school YET she did PE in her underwear..?

146 replies

Shhhh · 04/11/2010 12:12

Surley its not unreasonable to expect that if a PE kit is provided and at school that come the PE lesson it should be worn..? AND that a group of 5/6 yr old boys and girls are not running about in their knickers..?

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FolornHope · 04/11/2010 12:13

totlly have had htis thread before
id ask why

ShatnersBassoon · 04/11/2010 12:14

So did your daughter just not find her kit, or were all the children in their underwear?

I don't think it's a problem for children to see each other in their pants, but I don't know why the teachers wouldn't want them to change into kit if it's there, or to stay in uniform if not (it's not like they'd be doing cross country running or anything).

Shhhh · 04/11/2010 12:17

Thanks forlorn.

dd came home last night clearly not happy about it, much questioning needed to find out why she was crying etc.

Turns out PE was done "naked" which it turns out means she did it in her knickers..Hmm.

Dh was livid as was I. I remember this as a kid and a 15 yr old and hated it. I thought these such lessons ended years ago..Sad.

Thing is, I have spoken to other mums (esp of girls) who seem to think its not a problem (I add those mums are teachers so maybe why..?),
I have spoken to the support teacher today (relevant teacher not on playground duty today) and suggested I have a word with her direct. Support teacher agreed with me, said she felt a bit [shocked] when she entered the class room yesterday to half dressed kids. Said she would not be happy was it her lo's.

Atm all I have been told is "the kids had a choice of PE dressed or in underwear" I mean.. AIBU but how can a 5 yr old decide that..?

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Bathsheba · 04/11/2010 12:18

I've had that before - my Daughter did sports day in front of the whole school, on a baking hot day in her cami-style vest - despite her full gym kit being in her bag - she has an indoor and an outdoor gym kit and they were both fully there

NordicPrincess · 04/11/2010 12:19

if pe kit was there she should have been wearing it. however i dont think its unreasonable for children of that age to do pe in their underwear

Shhhh · 04/11/2010 12:21

her kit was there and she knew it, she carried it in yesterday on 1st day back from half term. She hung it up and knew it was for PE.

Apparently they didn't have time to get changed Hmm IMO, shouldnt they then:
a. NOT do the lesson
b. plan better next time
c. OR Make time..?

according to the ST some were dressed some not...

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Hulababy · 04/11/2010 12:24

Atm all I have been told is "the kids had a choice of PE dressed or in underwear" I mean.. AIBU but how can a 5 yr old decide that..?

That seems fair enough. The children have a choice. At 5 they are capable of such a choice surely?

Some children simply not have the PE kit to change into. So, the choice is there so they don't feel really bad if they have to do without shorts.

I personally prefer DD to do PE in shorts and t shirt - and that is compulsary in her school anyway. But, in essence, these little ones are only 5y so knickers and vest is perfectly adequate for indoor PEs - they are almost as covered as shorts and t shirt anyway, and certainly more covered than playing ina bathing suit on a public beach.

Deliaskis · 04/11/2010 12:25

Depends entirely on the circumstances and exactly what happened. Until you speak to the teacher in question, you're only getting part of the story.

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Shhhh · 04/11/2010 12:35

hulababy, thing is I dont think dd is able to make that choice. She isn't aware of the pro's or cons of PE in underwear and given the fact she was disturbed last night about it she clearly didnt make the right decision.

Yeah sure she is ok to decide if she wants to to be someones friend of not, something like this shouldn't be up to her to decide.

She had a PE kit and should have worn it.

Those that didn't have PE kits for whatever treason, their parents need to take it further. If I didnt mind dd doing it in underwear then I wouldnt have spent £30 on a PE kit!

IMO they are MORE covered in short and Tshirt than a pair of knickers..! and the issue about being on a beach, on a beach they are with me, at shcool they aren't. I dont have that control.

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NordicPrincess · 04/11/2010 12:38

a 5yr old shouldnt be given the choice at school about whether to change or not, especially if half the other children are in kit. that seems really odd to me, if half class had time why didnt the rest. better planning needed

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 04/11/2010 12:42

ffs she's five....I think you've let your dd down big time if she's uncomfortable at this age with being in pants in front of boys.,

At fifteen I would have an issue but not five....

ForMashGetSmash · 04/11/2010 12:49

Well why does she feel she made the wrong choice? Is she feeling your dissaproval? Most 5 year olds can make a choice like that...and vest and knickers is not different to swimming suit surely?

Did you freak out when she said she did it in her unerwear?

Firawla · 04/11/2010 12:54

OP Yanbu I would not be happy with this @ all, clearly your dd was not happy with it either. I dont think it is acceptable from the school tbh, I would go and have a word, atleast then they will know your stance and should make sure your dd is not left doing pe in underwear again?

Ormirian · 04/11/2010 12:55

"She isn't aware of the pro's or cons of PE in underwear "

What are they then? At 5 I don't really think there are any.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 04/11/2010 12:56

Fir....why would you be upset? Are teachers or boys going to abuse the girls?

plainjanesuperbrain · 04/11/2010 13:01

A bunch of 5 year olds running round in pants and vests is hardly shocking.

Don't see the point of it though!

SuePurblybilt · 04/11/2010 13:04

My dd doesn't wear a vest and is unlikely ever to wear one - she feels the heat Grin.
I would not be happy therefore in her running round in her pants. It would be cold and ikow she would not feel comfortable.

Maisiethemorningsidecat · 04/11/2010 13:07

5/6 year olds doing gym in their vests and pants really doesn't seem worth getting your knickers in a twist about (sorry, couldn't resist!)

I wonder if she's picked up on your feelings on the matter, and has reacted accordingly. It must be incredibly difficult dealing with 30 children, a lesson that has run over time, and a booked gym hall/teacher that is waiting for your class to appear. AS others have said, it's no worse than a swimming costume. I'd let it go if I were you - if you don't make a big deal of it, neither will she.

MadamDeathstare · 04/11/2010 13:12

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DanceInTheDark · 04/11/2010 13:13

I think there is more to this that you haven't heard OP. DS2 often does indoor PE in his pants. That's because the class are told to hurry up and get changed or they do it how they arecdressed/undressed. He is slow that's all.

He is 5 and I don't have an issue with them doing indoor PE in their underwear. Should I?

Deliaskis · 04/11/2010 13:21

It sounds like this might not be quite as it seems then. I get the impression that they might have been told to change quickly, then after a certain time been given the choice of doing PE now as they were, or not at all.

Just guessing as obv I don't know what happened, but this seems one of the more likely of a number of different scenarios.

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PixieOnaLeaf · 04/11/2010 13:21

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umf · 04/11/2010 13:31

What??? Primary schools make children do PE in their knickers? If 5 year old children are "too slow" getting changed then the slow ones have to go out in their pants as some sort of public humiliation? And people here think that's ok?

This kind of thing went on in schools when I was a child, though it was pretty borderline even then, but I really thought things had improved.

Blondeshavemorefun · 04/11/2010 13:31

Atm all I have been told is "the kids had a choice of PE dressed or in underwear" I mean.. AIBU but how can a 5 yr old decide that..?

so she was givne a choice, if your dd wanted to wear her kit, then why didnt she?

i would expect my 5yr to be bale to decide whether to wear clothes or not

tbh im suprised by the teachers agreeing to this, doesnt bother me that kids do pe in their underwear, but more the fact that the parents paid for a pe kit and it doesnt get usede - so waste of money

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 04/11/2010 13:32

It's not humiliation....it's time management. Underwear is not shameful.