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to want to stay home in bed with my 2 week old?

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Mirabelle77 · 04/11/2010 00:18

Got mil staying at moment been out shopping , coffee etc for last 3 days been good to practise getting out with pfb.

However we struggled to bf and I am using shields as he would not bf without and have been expressing for all these trips and sometimes when he flails and screams at breast have expressed and given bottle.

Bf got off to a poor start as had to go to another hospital after birth as retained placenta and also lost a litre of blood so didn't spend first few hours together then was very weak and hospital gave him formula in a cup. I kept trying to bf , next night went back to mlu and they helped sooo much. He lost nearly 12% of his weight but has put on at last weigh in.

So the question is finally mil wants to go on yet another trip out tomorrow but my left boob seems to have dried up and I have no expressed milk saved , feel like staying at home and feeding. I feel like she will just think I am being lazy but we never seem to have cuddle time or snooze time in the day since she got here as she seems to have him most of the time.

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LoopyLoops · 04/11/2010 21:26

Are you feeding him when he starts crying, or before? If you offer when he's happy, he might not get to the screaming bit, and feeding might be easier. Sorry if you've already tried that.

zipzap · 04/11/2010 21:46

if you're still having problems feeding, have you tried feeding in bed with ds across you so gravity pops his head onto your nipple? (as opposed to having him lie next to you and being sideways on to each other?)

my fab mw showed me how to do both these positions when first trying to bf ds2 and having problems getting him to latch on. To start with, he really took to being on his tummy on top of me, and if you could get the chin to go down in the right place then he would latch on so easily - when struggling with all other positions. Might be worth asking your mw to show you if she hasn't already...

there seemed to be something about the position that was very comforting for the baby - maybe because they were close to your heart and could hear it, familiar from when they were in the womb? and also great for lots of skin on skin contact if you can open up your ds's babygro easily but still leave the back on to keep him warm.

sounds like your dh has got the wrong end of the stick too about having mil there and the way things are going - seeing if you want to go out for tea. Sounds like he is thinking that it is more like a holiday/celebration time; and if his mum is telling him that the baby is really well behaved and sleeps lots in his pram when out, he could be thinking that everything is ok, babies are easy, what's the fuss...

definitely a good time to start a conversation about how things were when your dh was born and 'how you had it easy then, being able to stay in hospital for a week or two even if you had an easy birth...' Grin Wink and see if she will recognise that you have it much harder than she did (assuming she had a fairly run of the mill experience from those days!)

I'd also not be afraid to invoke the mw and/or hv (who amazingly have exactly the same views that you do on having rest/others look after you etc) when you want to do something that gets in the way of you doing what they think you ought to do (eg go out when you want to stay in)

Then there's also the baby monitor to consider - you could have a heart to heart with your mum/best friend/imaginary friend/etc and deliberately make sure they are listening to forget the baby monitor is on. Cue angst from you - it's horrible, they just don't seem to get it, think this is a holiday, I'm running around after them despite having had traumatic birth and huge blood loss and not able to bond and feed baby etc etc as per post. maybe they will then realise quite what it is that you are going through.

as for expressing - can be useful even in the early days, little and often to help stimulate supply I found. also when things got really bad and too painful for me to feed it mean there was still bm to drink. You can always freeze it, you don't need to use it immediately, or even throw it away (it seems a shame I know) but especially if one side has dried up a bit, trying to express the dried up side when feeding the other can help.

sorry, lots of random thoughts and things that helped me get through. didn't mean for it to be quite so much for you to read through.

take care of yourself and the baby and enjoy these precious days together. and just remember to drink loads - way more than you think (I would take up 3 pint glasses of squash and get through it in an evening!)

stripeywoollenhat · 04/11/2010 22:10

i think you should ask your dh to tell his mother to leave, actually. i can't believe she has moved into your house and is interfering with your bonding with your child - having a newborn and trying to get to grips with bf is sufficiently stressful without having to deal constantly with somebody else's mother.

she's had more than a week, right? time for her to go home.

mathanxiety · 04/11/2010 23:15

Have the HV check for tongue tie while she's there.

When you're trying to get him to latch on, squeeze your boob almost flat so the nipple doesn't flop about, but is firm enough to stick right into his little mouth (will save you a sore nipple too as the nipple will go in as far as the back of his tongue and you'll avoid the sandpapering effect).

And what are they doing making you wait for your tea like that? How about phoning Tesco and having a home delivery of food just for you, all sorts of instant stuff. Better to have the HV talk sternly to your MIL and DH though. They are worse than useless.

Mirabelle77 · 04/11/2010 23:30

Mil is going on sat she has been here for a week my mum is then coming for a week, wish I was on my own tbh. Just had some toast in bed. Expressed 30 ml at 9 ds drank it and has snoozed since now on dh but 30 ml doesn't seem much to keep him going don't they need more than that at 2 weeks?

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kat2504 · 05/11/2010 00:50

Surely your mum will understand if you want to be on you own? Or does she live further away and not met baby yet? what you want should come first though. If she is coming be quite clear with her about what is going on and what you want from her so you don't get another repeat performance. Hopefully your mum will be more understanding. Good time to get the HV to tell them how it is!

piprabbit · 05/11/2010 01:07

Sorry you are having such a tough time. Things do get easier as you grow in confidence and experience.

Agree with everyone to drink loads of water and snack lots.

Have you tried holding your DS like a rugby ball while you feed him? Sounds silly, but I mean tuck him under your arm so his legs are behind you and his head is stuck out the front so he can feed. Use a cushion to support him underneath. It was the only way I could get my DS to feed from my left boob. An NCT BFing counsellor could help you try different approaches if you call their BFing line on 0300 330 0771 (8am - 10pm 7 days a week).

drfayray · 05/11/2010 01:48

You are doing a fantastic job Mirabelle! I am very cross with your MIL and DH. You should be treated like a queen. In my culture, new mothers are not allowed to get up for about a month, given special food and all this for the health of the baby. Unfortunately I was living in the UK and did not get this. But MIL came and she was quite good at getting the housework and cooking done.

I remember after the birth of DD, (very traumatic, placenta praevia, she was prem and we both nearly kicked the bucket), I used to get up, bathe and get dressed before the HV came. I got told off for doing this. HV said she expected to see me in bed, snuggling with my DD. New mothers need to rest, build up supply and enjoy those newborn moments. I remember gazing at her beautiful face for ages. Sigh...now she is 12 but still beautiful. Sorry, nostalgia.

I listened to her and felt better for it. I was lucky in that DH and ILs looked after me very well.

You need to talk to your DH and get him to understand your needs. You also need to make sure your HV knows this situation.

And congratulatons!

mathanxiety · 05/11/2010 02:38

Just boggles my mind that it hasn't occurred to these two prats that someone who has just delivered a baby might need to have the housework done for her, and meals cooked. Not to mention a woman who lost almost a litre of blood delivering a baby Angry.

Please tell the HV to set your DH straight on his role for the next few weeks.

EmmyVonN · 05/11/2010 05:14

Haven't read the while thread so dont know if this has been said. You will never get this opportunity again. If you want to retreat from the world and live in that delicious, exhausting newborn fug, please, please do it. If you have another baby, you won't be able to retreat in the same way.

Mirabelle77 · 05/11/2010 06:18

Just fed ds tried for half hour on left boob but kept crying etc so expressed a bit to give him as well. Last night me and dh had an argument up here he thinks he does nothing right and feels like he can't just go to work and act like normal now he has ds. I cried and then we kissed and cuddled and we made up he agreed he should be making me tea first I said that's all I need food getting etc he did do all that for the first two weeks he was fab!

I will draw up a list of things that need doing for my mum and explain what went wrong this week. My mum lives 4 hours away so can't cancel her now.

Can't tell hv much as mil will be there, she did say she was ironing his shirts to save me doing them , thing is he usually irons them himself .

Pretty tired so having snooze with ds now before he next wakes.

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Miffster · 05/11/2010 06:25

MIL should not be in the room when you are seeing HV.Shock

You should be able to talk to her in confidence, from your bed, doors closed!
And tell her what you have told mumsnet.
Anyway, hope you are having a good snooze and the HV visit helps you feel supported in telling your DH, MIL, Mum etc what you need. Because what you need is what the baby needs right now: you two are one unit. So the baby comes first as he needs you to be there for him and everyone else needs to look after you. If they can't do that, they have no business in your house and no right to be there. :)

DuelingFanjo · 05/11/2010 08:31

when I posted about this very thing possibly happening to me I got a lot of 'be grateful - she can do the housework' but it does really annoy me that, like you Mirabelle, anything my MIL might do would be for the benefit of my DH not me - ie ironing shirts and making him food.

I hope after talking to your DH that things are going to be better. Hopefully your mum will be more supportive.

I definitely second the opinion that the HV and you should be alone. If you know when she will be arriving maybe ask your MIL to pop out of the house so you can have some privacy.

WallowsInFlies · 05/11/2010 08:39

thank goodness she's going tomorrow! what a royal pain.

the ironing his shirts business is just so Angry i think she's really taken the mickey and i wouldn't be in a hurry to invite her back again. doesn't sound like she's a great influence on your husband either which is a bit crap of him but hopefully he'll go back to being considerate and focussed once she's gone.

glad you're going to lay things out for your mum. she'll enjoy it i'm sure knowing that the other granny didn't do great and she'll want to do better Wink play on that Smile

well done for surviving the mil - imagine the relief when she finally buggers off!

bearcrumble · 05/11/2010 08:52

Get them to do you a nice juicy steak tonight - enough with the toast.

WallowsInFlies · 05/11/2010 09:15

or tell hubby he should take mil out to dinner for her last night and you order yourself in a scrummy takeaway and relax in peace x

StayFrosty · 05/11/2010 10:28

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SparklePffftBANG · 05/11/2010 10:29

Please ask your MIL to leave the room when your HV is there!

Mirabelle77 · 05/11/2010 12:53

Hv visited mil went outside to do gardening! Came back when he got weighed he appears to have lost weight but this time she weighed him naked and last time he was weighed he had his nappy left on full of poo! So she coming back mon to check again.

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pastyeater · 05/11/2010 13:22

Breastfeeding is hard and you really need lots of support. Sounds like you are not getting looked after like a new Mum should be.Sad

Tactfully assert your needs. Don't worry what she thinks. We all think she's an insensitive cow!!! xx

mathanxiety · 05/11/2010 18:03

Support, not to mention regular meals that consist of more than toast. Angry and Shock still at this situation.

iamamug · 05/11/2010 20:00

Breast fed babies' weight can be on the low side - please don't let it put you off. Remember my mum saying my DS1 looked "thin - looks like he needs a good meal!" FFS he was about a week old - hadn't got back to birth weight by then! really upset me - just plain ignorance - we were all FF in the good old 60's.
Don't stress about the numbers - just keep doing what you're doing and you'll get there. x
BTW you having steak tonight??

montoyadiary · 05/11/2010 20:04

explain you're tired and need to rest and go to bed! stay in your dressing gown too - the minute you're dressed and up the expectation will be that you're completely recovered. I didn't do any of that with my first and it took me months to recover properly. With my second and third i organised people to be around to help for the whole of the first month, it made a huge difference.

You can't control everything in the house in the way you're used to, which is hard, especially with guests staying - but you have to let go and let others help you. Tell them what you and the baby need most and don't feel guilty about being taken care of. Trust me, it won't be long before you're flying solo!

BagofHolly · 05/11/2010 20:35

I'm coming to this late, obviously, but it sounds like you're doing a great job! Trust your tits! And I tell you something, I'm RIGHT off your MIL! glad she's going!

TheProvincialLady · 06/11/2010 09:04

He was weighed with a nappy on? That is extraordinarily bad practiceAngry What awful crap you have been made to put up with.

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