To think that all Labour supporters must be a bit bloody thick?

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I don't understand it ........ Every one I have heard moans on about being worse off under the Coalition ... why do they all think the money to bail us out of Browns' catastrophic fuck up should come from somebody else? don't they get it? we all have to pay now.

And why oh why would anybody in their right mind want Labour in again after what they have done to our country??

I am at a loss

janos yes, I agreed with the OP and posted on this thread.

Clearly a BIG mistake.

I have never insulted anyone on here before so this is a first for me but what a thick OP.

Anyone remember the Falklands???

Yes, and ironically, the global banking crisis could have been Brown's 'Falklands'. Could have easily swept him back to power. He got off to a good start when he was knocking heads together in the G7 and being statesmanlike... but when we all left the storm-shelters the truth was that the economy he'd spent 13 years manipulating, wasn't in as good shape as he'd been making out. Wasn't resilient at all.

Labour voters are generally much ruder about Tory voters than Tory voters are about Labour voters.

I have said this earlier, but I have been called some VERY rude names on MN due to my political habits.

People also conflate the terms right wing and fascist. Also right wing and authoritarian. They forget that left wing goverments are often very authoritarian

Yes, YOU have.
So have I.

We are differently voting people with good manners

tbh, I also despair at all the awful benefit scroungers/xenophobia/often racist comments on here

I feel I have more in common with a labour voter that I have with that kind of Daily Mail wank

Well, at least this thread is a change from the "Tory voters should be ashamed of themselves and bow down as scum of the earth because I don't agree with them" ones which have been cropping up in multiple incarnations over the last few weeks.

Im a Labour supporter. Im not thick.

," it was not the Labour Government that got us into the mess we are in, it was the bankers and the USA economic system that imploded,"

The labour government ran up the defecit by 13 years of overspending, of which the bnk buyout is only a tiny portion.

It would be normal to increase the defecit in times of recession - labours overspending means that is not an option. So, the op is not 'politically illiterate' as the need for cuts is directly because of the previous Labour Government, and the previous labour government had planned to cut also, having realised that....

Look at all the contracts Labour signed just before they left office. I know of at least one pension contract they signed for millions without having a competitive tender process.

PFI is also a scandal.

What I find strange about the debate is the way in which Labour supporters refuse to engage in the debate about actualities - PFI, the pension debacle, overspending, reckless borrowing, in order to just talk about Thatcher. It is really time to move on from Thatcher. I wouldn't have voted for her either.

As for the equitable life scandal - no one EVER mentions this.

@tiredemma "''"

You are 100% correct in your OP.

"I don't understand it ........

You clearly don't!

I do find it amusing sometimes that the Conservatives' detractors moan that they are nasty because they are too much like the Conservatives of 30 years ago, and that Labour's detractors moaned that they were nasty because they were not enough like the Labour of 30 years ago. Is change in a political party good or bad?

"Labour or should i say GB had the banks by the short and curlies, he should have made them pay us back before they ever paid another penny in bonus.
We need that money back in the coffers.
Can anyone tell me why this wasn't written into the loan agreement or why it cannot be added now ?"

^This

Fair enough but it should have been a conditional bail out, share purchases, whatever.
If I borrow money from somebody I don't buy myself so much as a mars bar without ensuring every penny has gone back first.

Are you 10? You sound like my friend Mary warner who told me in 1987 that my parents must be sooo stuuupid to be voting Labour. Ner ner ner ner ner. Only I had the last laugh because it turned out next time we watched tv together that she thought Maggie Thatcher was the queen. She at least had the excuse of still actually being at primary school...

I haven't read replies, sorry. Your OP is childishly simplistic.

I vote Labour because the ideology - the very fabric - of what the Conservatives stand for makes my skin crawl.

Thanks.

I think you have misunderstood my post, smallwhitecat.

I am a socialist. I fundamentally disagree with and dislike Conservatism.

That's not 'prejudice and self image' (whatever that means). It's disagreeing with a political ideology.

And blaming the state of the world economy wholly on the previous government is childishly simplistic. I suppose Thatcher and those years of rabid, unfettered Capitalism had nothing to do with it?