to find this comment about C sections annoying

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my friend and his wife are expecting their first baby which they conceived naturally after a number of IVF attempts.

he told me the other day that she will probably have a C section as her uterus is an unusual shape and they are seeing the consultant in a few weeks who will decide if she can have one.

he then said, she will be pretty gutted if she can't have a C section as everything with the pregnancy has gone smoothly to this point and it will just be better to have a C section....

it is none of my business and up to them but i found this assumption that a C section was somehow better and safer a bit naive.....

AIBU?

FWIW - I think YAB a little U. Her body, their baby, their personal choices / preferences.

And all this talk of "easy option" or "not-easy option" - any way of giving birth has risks, the easy option would be if babies grew in the cabbage patch and women didn't have to give birth however the baby comes out!

No No No teenyanne. Apparently it'd not their choice according to some on here!! Heaven forbid we get to choose how we bring our children into the world!! It's ignorant to think CS should be a choice, even in this day and age! Apparently.

shelly I really dont appreciate you sending msgs to my inbox. If you have something to say thats worth saying then do it on the thread, unless you are trying to be intimidating .... sorry you failed I can say all i want to on this thread rather than hide behind inbox msgs.

I stand by my calling your view ignorant as I believe that it is.

Your post of 20.32 contradicts your orogibal post that a CS should be 'a choice', you state this time that 'if its best for baby' then CS is ok.
You'll find that if you read my post I state that a C section should be considered for medical and psychological reasons, I am by no means against women having sections despite my personal experience. But it should be based on medical or phsychological problems not 'a choice' as you state in your original post.

Good for you that you were fine after yours, lots of people are, same as lots of people are after a VB. This does not mean that its a great option for everyone

I would also like to add that elective caesarians are not always the trouble free option for babies. Respiratory distress syndrome can be a very serious side effect of elcs, because labour hasn't started (as would be the case with an emcs) the lungs can be 'not ready'.

The thing is everyone has different experiences of birth whether vaginal or caesarian, so it is not a great idea to assume that having an elcs is the easier option.

I had 2 vaginal births and one elcs, and tbh they were all pretty bad, but the worst was the caesarian. A lot of people talk about having a c-section being the pain-free option, but, jesus I was in agony for weeks after my c-section, despite morphine and maximums trength codeine. But the worst part of it was worrying about and not being able to hold ds, who was in an incubator if SCBU. I still have nightmares about the whole thing.

I have not had a vaginal birth. Had an EMCS after failed induction and 2 days in labour with failure to progress.
After my CS I could not get up from my sofa without help from DH for a long time. My CS scar became infected and started to leak (sorry TMI). Also had problems with BFing due to issues with my scar being so sore and DS kicking it. My nobility was restricted so had problems moving DS into position to BF as well. I have also been left with the classic CS overhang. I am considering having another child in the next few years and I am very worried as it looks as if I will need an ELCS due to a narrow pelvis. I am not sure that CS is the easy option although I acknowledge that I have not experienced another. I still have nightmares about my CS too Hazeyjane. The comments some people make about being "too posh to push" bloody irritate me tbh.

OMG Mosschops!!! I certainly didn't mean to be intimidating!!! I didn't want to call u out for being obnoxious and calling me ignorant on the public posts. Post what i said if you'd like. I think you were out of order and to get so outraged about me being pro-choice re:CS is ridiculous. I didn't realise emailing you would offend you either...I'm new to this so excuse me this time please! I still don't see how my view is ignorant and i def don't see how i've contradicted myself in my post!! There should be choice but of courseif it's best for the baby..who would choose otherwise??? You maybe?

Not in this to get personal so let's drop it here please. I just don't like being called ignorant when i'm clearly not.

Er i think you'll find that everyone can see I called you ignorant, so you dont need to send me a personal msg about it.

I think its bad form to do that, if you cant say what you want to on an open thread then its obviously not worth saying.

I see you are continuing your blinkered view of what Ive posted. Im not sure where Ive said that I would go against medical advice about a c section, quite the opposite.

But youve said that it should be a choice, if its on medical advice then thats not a choice, its a medical reason for undergoing major surgery. My problem lies in your use of 'choice' as in you get pregnant and just decide to have a CS without any need (medical or otherwise)

If youre not in this to get personal then why send a personal msg?????

So i didn't re-highlight the fact that you had been out of order> But namecalling and telling on people clearly comes second nature to you!! You reported me for laughing at ur 'ignorant' comment. WTF?? Are we back at school?? As i said let it end here. We clearly disagree on this topic but let's be mature about it please.

I am not name calling or telling on people.

I posted that I thought you use of the inbox facility was inappropriate and reported it as such. This has only been used by myself and other posters ive been in contact with to send useful messages or offers of help etc. You could have easily said your bit on here.

I do think your opinion is ignorant. And I have not been derogatory or otherwise in saying so. Your refusal to see any other view than your own only highlights this.

"c-sections are kinder to all unless you are obese or have some kind of medical condition that would hinder recovery from CS."

Shelly - it is assertions like this one that make your post sound ignorant (as opposed to you sounding ignorant). I am perfectly fit and healthy and not overweight, but took ages to recover from a csection, and as I said in my previous post, csections are not necessarily, 'kinder to all'.

I agree hazey I am neither obese or have medical conditions.
However what happened to me is virtually unheard of in healthy adults, yet it happened, and was definately not kinder.
However my baby and me both survived and thats the most important thing

Glad it went well in the end Moss chops but like i said, i'm new to this and didn't think anything of it, let alone imagine i was being intimidaing. Whether u meant to be derogatory or not (look the meaning up...no i'll save you it means to belittle and disparage...you may have to look those up too) i feel that you were being so. Hazey Jane, maybe i was basing my 'kinder to all' assumption on my experience. Clearly i got lucky. However, i still think that women should have the right to choose what 'they' feel is best for them and baby.

Shelly, seriously you are out of order now. If you are a recent member I suggest you read a lot of threads to get the measure of MN. If you are not new you have no reason to be so gratuitously offensive and patronising.

ME??? You're like a band of dribbling hyenas, baying for blood. It is amusing, seriously....but...yawn...i've got things to do, babies to pay attention to. Ciao