to take out my dc who has the pox?

[sleeplessinseatle]

Obviously not to playgroups etc, but I've got a baby at home and don't think I can cope otherwise. Is there anywhere we can safely go where there won't be lots of kids/pregnant women?

Right.

When Dizzy had me sucked in, she had me as a friend on her FB page. But she only had other bereaved parents from MN on there. No one else.

Sassy has six or seven MN brereaved parents on there thats i'm friends with. Out of 72 friends.

Having looked on Sassys wall, there are numerous comments about Catherine ect, from everyone - not just MN friends.

Does that make it any clearer?

I don't think laptop have IP addresses or mobiles with Wi Fi as when I turn on wireless it states 'obtaining IP address from (insert my provider here)

I hope that all invoved are getting some support - this has been a horribly sad thread - not only about the dangers of infection but also the whole troll accusations.

My mind is whirling like Miss Marples but I don't want it to so will go to bed now and check back tomorrow.

Dee you've been amazing through all of this.

Well she has genuine looking friends on FB, so I just thought that would be harder to fabricate than a pretty much stand alone blog....where most followers are anonymous.

That said I'm sure you could 'like' groups if you had such a tragedy in close circles.

I'm going to stop posting now, as sure others have more important things to add and this thread may soon run out of space.

I honestly don't know. I don't know what to think. But i do believe that Sassy had a daughter who has died, and thats the saddest thing of all.

The thing is that sassysusan has met people in real-life, has a blog, months worth of posts on here, a facebook page, I think someone said they'd been to her child's grave? So if it is a hoax, then it's a massive, huge hoax. She's properly, properly committed to it. Which doesn't make it impossible (unlikely, but not impossible), but it does make it very hard to prove/disprove. Whatever evidence is offered it is still possible to say 'she could have made that up'. So the 72 non-mn facebook friends, which normally would be convincing, makes you think..well they could be from other online support forums where she has used the same story. If she's gone to the trouble of meeting someone in RL then almost anything else could be possible, couldn't it?

The alternative is that she's genuine and we've all made a terrible, awful situation worse by yanking away her support network.

It's lose-lose really.

Why SHOULD she answer all these questions? If she doesnt want to have to prove to a load of strangers that she hasnt concocted some incredibly elaborate scam?

I know if it happened to me I would think 'fuck it then'.

If you think she is a liar thats your perogative. If others choose to think otherwise that is theirs.

End.

FWIW I have never seen a troll write so 'right' about grief. All the ones I have seen use the sort of language they think bereaved parents use.

Yes some do talk of their children taken by the angels and write poetry about tears leading to heaven. This is FINE for them. But not all of us do. Some express themselves exactly in the way Sassy does. But I dont think an 'outsider' would know this.

If I am wrong, I am wrong.

I do appreciate those who have expressed concern for my welfare. Its kind of you to think of me and the other bereaved parents.

Speaking for myself, I am fine.

MrsDeVere, even totally accepting that her loss and her grief are real -- the thing is it would not happen to you, because Sassy has four recent MN bans linked to her IP address, as different trolls, according to MNHQ anyway.

It's hard not to feel a desire to understand what this means, on the off chance that this person, who seems to know grief so intimately, is nevertheless possibly not being completely honest with posters on the bereaved mums thread and elsewhere.

It just seems weird that she won't address it, is all. It's not that she shies away from discussing her MN ban on her blog. She just seems to be skirting around some parts of it that would seem like the obvious ones to address.

Ok dd is fed, am going to sleep now, hope you all get proper rest.

But DM, she has addressed it on her blog - in the comments she says she has only ever used two posting ids - SadSusan and SassySusan. How else can she address it if she really isn't WWC?

OK i cant be arsed reading through all the posts but i will read through them in the morning.....I have been out tonight with my wonderful survivor - My delightful firstborn son. I have PMSL at him..he is a total delight...I am very drunk BUT I promise I will come back i the morning and read all the posts

Glad you had a good night shabba

I am sorry but in the blog spot address you can still see the mumsnetters name. Sassy needs to change this.

I think MNHQ have done the correct thing.

You can not launch personal attacks on other mumsnetters to the extent that Sassy has, whatever your circumstances.

I would believe MNHQ over Sassy with regards to the namechanging.

Very sad to have interacted with others.

Thank you to those who have highlighted the risks associated with CP.

I am so sorry to those of you have lost loved ones.

The mumsnetter's name isn't Eva Braun, SS changed it so that the woman was no longer identifiable.

No, she means Avril is still in the address bar, Goblinchild.

Not quite fully awake, am I?
Goblins are creatures of the night, sorry fizzledrizzle.