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To accept this huge amount of money??

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RaspberrySheep · 24/09/2010 12:23

I have been a long time lurker but could really do with the opinions of the MN Jury. Please help!!

Just after my dad died suddenly in 2001, I discovered I was pregnant. It was unexpected to say the least, but my partner was excited about it and we decided that we would have the baby. My partner became increasingly distant and when I was four and a half months pregnant he gave me the ?it?s the baby or me ultimatum.? He told me that he could not face up to being a father and he left. He encouraged me to have a late termination, but I didn?t want this, not only because I was still grieving for my dad but because I had fallen in love with my baby.

He made it clear to me that he did not want to have anything to do with the baby but I always hoped that he would change his mind. My little boy is now 8 and has changed my life for the better. It has not been straightforward as my DS has Dyspraxia but as with all mums, I am his biggest fan!

I have always worked fulltime to support DS, however in 2003, I was made redundant and was unemployed for three months. During this time I needed to claim benefits and the Benefits Agency subsequently contacted the CSA to chase DS?s father for some kind of support for DS. (His father had not paid anything towards his upkeep until then).

My DS was awarded £184 a month and has received this amount every month from his father ever since.

I recently contacted the CSA and discovered that DS?s father had declared to them that he was earning £15k a year. He holds a senior position at a company and has always earned more than £40k per annum. The CSA offered to review the payment and have now come up with a new award of £500 per month.

My problem with this is ? do I accept the money? DS?s father is very affluent and has been able to ?move on? with his life after leaving us. He has married and has a great job. However my life / career came to a standstill when DS was born. DS has everything he needs, but he has never been on holiday and I could not afford to buy a car or any other ?luxuries? for him. When DS?s father found out about the huge increase in award, he was furious and has now contacted me to ask me to consider setting up an arrangement with him directly, so that the CSA are not involved at all.

My friend (who is keeping an eye on this thread) nearly choked on her sandwich when I suggested that this is what I may do. She?s right, he is totally unreliable, he has never shown an interest in DS, never sent him a Birthday or Christmas card, once (the only time) when DS contacted him, he hung up. Not forgetting that he has been paying well under what he should have been for the past 5 years. However, I just can not get out of my head the guilt of taking so much money from him, when he made it clear at the start that DS was not welcome in his life and I decided to go it alone. I wish I could tell him where to put the money, but the truth is that I need it to be able to pay the bills.

What do you think??

OP posts:
ForgottenTomato · 24/09/2010 12:24

accept the money. Your ex should be supporting his son.

I don't see what the moral dilemma is here.

ForgottenTomato · 24/09/2010 12:25

do not let the bugger weasel out of it by agreeing to a private arrangement (of less money that he won't honour).

PrivetDancer · 24/09/2010 12:26

I would take it and I would definitely keep the arrangement via the CSA.

LadyBiscuit · 24/09/2010 12:27

I think you need to do what's best for your son and his father has been lying and shirking his responsibilities for far too long.

I'd get every single penny your son (not you remember, him) is entitled to and don't spend a moment feeling guilty or bad or whatever other negative emotion is going through your head that's making you even consider accepting his offer of not going via the CSA.

Rosedee · 24/09/2010 12:27

Take the money!! He has shown no interest in your ds didn't support him til Csa gig involved and you feel guilty? Don't be daft it's your sons money by right. Oh and don't have a private arrangement keep with the csa or he might just decide to stop paying altogether.

muggglewump · 24/09/2010 12:27

Take the money!

I've been going through the Aus CSA to chase my ex, and will take every penny.
I can't stand him so his money is better in my pocket than his.

muggglewump · 24/09/2010 12:27

And yes, stick with the CSA.

dinkystinky · 24/09/2010 12:28

Accept the money - keep it via the CSA - and let your son enjoy those luxuries that the money will buy him.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 24/09/2010 12:28

It's your money not his.

Elsaz · 24/09/2010 12:28

Why should you be feeling guilty? He is the one who abandonned and rejected his own son.

Take the money

RJRabbit · 24/09/2010 12:29

Don't feel guilty. Your son deserves this money. And gee whiz, don't make any private arrangements with such an untrustworthy person!

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 24/09/2010 12:29

I think you should take it, and that you should stick with going through the CSA. If your DS's Dad has been lying about his income and witholding money then of course he will continue to do it if you give him half a chance.

And if he was so dead set against becoming a father, then he should have kept his cock in his pants and not had sex - so don't for a moment let him guilt you into accepting a lower amount of money.

slhilly · 24/09/2010 12:29

Whether a surprise or not, your DS's father needs to man up and accept his responsibilities. If he didn't want to run the risk of being a dad, he shouldn't have had sex. He should be paying his way for his son. Why do you feel guilty about taking the money from him but not feel guilty about denying the money to your son? Let the CSA sort it.

Callisto · 24/09/2010 12:30

I wouldn't do it personally. He made it plain that he didn't want the baby from the start. You made the decision to have your son and the effect that had on your earnings should have been part of that decision.

I don't know, maybe your ex should be made to pay £500/month to your son. But then, maybe it would be taking money away from any children he has now that he planned for and wanted. I do think it is really unfair to expect someone to pay for something/a situation they didn't want and were never up for.

Sorry, a bit of a fence-sitting answer there.

cupcakesandbunting · 24/09/2010 12:31

It's a no-brainer.

If he had full-custody of your DS he'd be paying more than that I am sure. Take it.

Miasma · 24/09/2010 12:31

TAKE THE MONEY!

thelunar66 · 24/09/2010 12:32

Take the money... it is your son's money anyway.

ForgottenTomato · 24/09/2010 12:33

but callisto, neither party planned the pregnancy; it happened anyway.

Sex (even with contraception) can lead to pregnancy. Everyone knows this and should be willing to accept the consequences. Or they should abstain.

plonker · 24/09/2010 12:33

It's a no brainer IMHO.

Take the money through CSA.

I really don't see the dilemma Confused

pagwatch · 24/09/2010 12:33

You shouldn't be asking if uyou should acceptthe money. You should be asking if your son desrve a father who contributes to his life in the only way he is prepared to.

Take yourself out of the equation - it is about your child not you.
It then becomes a non issue.
Accept it on behalf of your son.

Your son won't be grateful for your moral 'I didn't take anything from him' stance. He will think you were daft

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Inertia · 24/09/2010 12:34

It is your son's money. If you don't want to spend it on his upkeep, save it for his university fees or whatever.

I would keep it all official and go through CSA. Don't feel guilty - you made a private agreement with this man once before, when you first discovered you were pregnant. He reneged on that agreement - why should you take his word now ? He's been lying to the CSA for years - hardly a man to trust.

kitsmummy · 24/09/2010 12:34

OMG, I can't believe you're querying this. Take the money, and if it really doesn't sit comfortably with you, put the extra into an account for DS to make his life easier when he is older. He's never going to have a father, so give him this head start with some money at least.

Oh, and make your own life easier too, you deserve a break too

ssd · 24/09/2010 12:36

take the money, if not for you then for your son who deserves a decent father, failing that some of his money

RumourOfAHurricane · 24/09/2010 12:36

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