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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

(pedant alert)

191 replies

Olifin · 12/09/2010 11:24

AIBU to wish people would say 'mischievous' rather than 'mischievious'?

And to wish that people would notice the difference between prostate and prostrate?

Too much time on my hands on a Sunday morning...

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ChippingIn · 12/09/2010 17:54

Skyline are you asking what a pedant is or are you being bitchy? Google/STFU as appropriate.

SkylineDrifter · 12/09/2010 17:57

I am joking Chipping - I know exactly what a pedant is, and I know what a pendant is. I'm just wondering what a 'pendent' is.

mumbar · 12/09/2010 18:04

Ah I always wait for Chippingin to chip in and once again you've saved the day with your perfect worded (as afaik) spelt post.

Grin

Thankyou chipping about mentioning learning dificulties I said YABU as I'm dyslexic and got told I didn't count then Hmm apparently if you annouince your dyslexic then you'll be forgiven.

Claw3 · 12/09/2010 18:06

Senua, i was trying to be a light hearted and laugh at the irony of this thread. Must be a pedants worst nightmare, others not agreeing with them and maybe even that they think they are wrong.

I for one, dont care if someone else has a better grasp of the English language than I and find it quite comical that pedants are so intolerant.

If you have the education to know where apostrophes go, you should also have the manners not to correct or mock others who dont.

Seems to be the trend to declare yourself a pedant. When really all you are doing is announcing you feel superior.

You can spell, i cant, who cares.

ChippingIn · 12/09/2010 18:27

Mumbar - maybe we could ask MNHQ for various symbols to use after our names - just so we know who to excuse for what - because there are so many things people get a hard time for, then when it's pointed out that someone is dyslexic or their husband died (usually on a benefits thread) or whatever the poster says 'Oh I didn't mean you' - no, they only ever mean other people Hmm

mumbar · 12/09/2010 18:30

chipping Grin

from mumber(dys)

mumbar · 12/09/2010 18:32

actually just why we are having this discussion - WTF is a 'pedant' Blush - altho I've got the jist from the OP.

usualsuspect · 12/09/2010 18:33

A pedant is a person who is overly concerned with formalism and precision, or who makes a show of his learning.

mumbar · 12/09/2010 18:35

cheers usual Smile

ChippingIn · 12/09/2010 18:35

pedant. n. person making display of his or her learning

A pedant is a person who is overly concerned with formalism and precision

Pedantry is an obsession with linguistic precision

Generally just a pain in the ass!

mumbar · 12/09/2010 18:36
Grin
Claw3 · 12/09/2010 18:41

Pedant: smug, uptight and the life and soul of the party.....yawn.

Claw3 · 12/09/2010 18:42

Oh and apparently they have a whole corner of them over there >>>>>>>>>>

Olifin · 12/09/2010 18:48

I do have a bit of an obsession with linguistic precision, I'll admit. I love linguistics It's not something I strive to do particularly, it's just part of my personality.

As I pointed out earlier on the thread (and which seems to have been conveniently glossed over by some posters), this rant is not about posters on MN. I have not once mentioned misspellings/punctuation/grammar errors on MN.

I was talking about some mispronunciations made in RL by people I know well (and who I know do not have dyslexia or learning difficulties).

I don't think it is piss poor of me. Unreasonable yes, piss poor, no.

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Olifin · 12/09/2010 18:50

Claw:

'Must be a pedants worst nightmare, others not agreeing with them and maybe even that they think they are wrong.'

It's not my worst nightmare. I enjoy a bit of debate. I think that's the point of AIBU.

'If you have the education to know where apostrophes go, you should also have the manners not to correct or mock others who dont.'

As I pointed out before, I don't correct or mock others. But I might come and have an anonymous rant on t'internet, as is my right.

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ChippingIn · 12/09/2010 18:51

Oh that's OK Olifin - they discuss real life Pedantry Issues as well

PEDANTS CORNER>>>>>>>>>>

I'll stick with Piss Poor thanks!

Claw3 · 12/09/2010 18:57

Olfin, we were not debating whether you have the right to post on the internet. You asked whether you were being unreasonable and i thought you were, as is my right.

Olifin · 12/09/2010 19:03

As is your right.

Why are you so cross about this?

I have already explained that I don't ever actually comment to people's faces about this. Nor do I phone my friends and say: 'Ooooooh, so and so doesn't say mischievous properly; how funny/wrong!'

Pedantry is one of my flaws. One of the (many) others is extreme pigheadedess. I'm afraid I definitely can't toddle off to pedants corner now, solely because you've told me to. That would go against my stubborness gene.

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Olifin · 12/09/2010 19:08

(Last post for ChippingIn)

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Olifin · 12/09/2010 19:09

Claw: Yes, I strongly suspect I am being unreasonable; I agree.

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Claw3 · 12/09/2010 19:16

Olfin, its already been said some adults have a speech delay, language disorder, learning disability, dyslexia etc or just not be as well educated or articulate as others (and post on here)

Personally i think it is just plain rude and very up your arseyness to point out how skilled you are and how flawed others are.

I didnt tell you to toddle off to pedants corner. Now im being pedantic!

ChippingIn · 12/09/2010 19:18

Olifin

Because I know people on here who get upset by threads like this.

Because I know people who have left MN because of this kind of thing.

Because I know people in RL who struggle with this kind of thing.

All of these people have much to offer, but don't because people judge their 'mistakes' instead of valuing their over-all contribution to conversation/web sites/jobs/RL conversations etc.

You can be as pigheaded/stubborn as you like - you can start as many threads like this as you want to - but please do it knowing how much you are hurting other people.

skidoodly · 12/09/2010 19:18

If you really thought your pendentry was a flaw you wouldn't be flaunting it. You started a thread about how you want other people to change the way they speak to please you. If you recognised that being a pendent is an unpleasant, embarrasing flaw you would seek to change yourself, not the people around you.

Mischievous doesn't rhyme with devious. If we didn't have another, better, way to pronounce it, Ebeneezer Goode by The Shamen might never have been composed.

And then where would we be?

ps you do know that experts in linguistics think your kind of pendentiousness is ridiculous? You're only a pseudo geek.

staranise · 12/09/2010 19:20

"If you have the education to know where apostrophes go, you should also have the manners not to correct or mock others who dont."

I don't mock others. I corrected my daughter's teacher because how can she teach my daughter correct grammar if she doesn't know it myself? I'd really rather not have to discuss punctuation with my daughter's teacher. I've never corrected people on MN - my own typing is often terrible.

I just expect most people to know the basics of grammar, as it's part of being able to read and write. If they don't, then the education system has failed them.

Claw3 · 12/09/2010 19:22

Olfin, now you think you might be being unreasonable. Stay with us, you have seen the light, dont go over to the dark side (pedants corner)

Come on, you can beat the smugness.