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To not reprt afriend for benefit fraud even tho she has told me she is livin with her partner but pretending she doesn't?

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burgerandchipswithredsauce · 08/09/2010 00:54

My friend has told me that her partner is living with her but pretending he ives with his mother so that friend can claim benefits for herself and her 3 children whilst her partner works fulltime to earn money to enable them to afford luxuries that most working families can only dream of.

AIBU not to report them because I am afraid of losing her friendship even though I do not agree with her lifestyle.

BTW myself and OH work all the hours God sends to provide ourselves and our children with basic essentials. We have no money left at the end of the week for an evening out as we cannot afford a babysitter. We have to pay our rent in full - no HB for us as we are a working family. We also have to pay full costs for childminding as we are not a single parent family. Our council tax costs per month push us over the edge.

Also our children have to have a packed lunch every day for school because we cannot afford to pay for hot school dinners. My friends children, however, get their hot school dinners free.

Friend has been awarded over £500 for a laptop for her eldest to have access to the internet so that he is not made to feel different from his peers - even though friend already has 3 PC's at her home. We have a secondhand PC which is well past its sell by date but cannot afford a laptop as we make sure our bills are paid on time as our priority.

Friend has informed us that she is going to try for another baby because that will enable her to obtain a larger house for her family. We live in a (very) modest two up, two down terraced house and would love to have another child but cannot afford to move to a larger house to make this possible. As the law states the ages of my children it would be against the law for different sexes over the age of 8 to share a bedroom. Because of this law the LA go all out to house families on benefits accordingly.

Am I jealous? Yes in monetary value I suppose I am, but overall I think I would prefer my children to know they have a mother and a father who is always there for them and will always put them first.

OP posts:
usualsuspect · 09/09/2010 21:46
tethersend · 09/09/2010 21:50

Don't worry dorie, the sensible people will start another thread in a minute.

You can post your insights there.

ShirleyKnot · 09/09/2010 21:52

And the trap closes again.

Accusing me of immaturity and ignorance is highly amusing! I'm not only known for it, I positively CELEBRATE it.

Anyway shall we have a little chat about the actual amount of money you "saved" the government by reporting your friend? I bet it really chipped away at the old deficit didn't it? I bet you're not angry that your oh so holy TAX POUNDS were spent by giving billions of pounds to privately run banks (who incidentally had pretty much forced the governments around the world to de-regulate banking in order for them to really rake the cash in) who in the past would have baulked at any such idea. Capitalism in action right there...but wait! isn't capitalism supposed to mean that you stand independently and fall independently? No? oh....

Still I'm the ignorant one eh dorie, babe?

usualsuspect · 09/09/2010 21:53
fin54 · 09/09/2010 21:59

The only poor people in this country are the working class people who work; earn a wage, all the others get it handed to them on a plate.
it makes me sick to think that both my husband and I work pay or NI and Tax while other's can take holiday's abroad and sit on their backsides day in and day out and contribute nothing.
Alcoholics even get money daily for their drink, people claiming DLA and working on the sly, Grrrrrrrr don?t start me please the UK needs to wise up or god help us all in the future

AlisonDubois · 09/09/2010 22:00

Has anybody actually read 1984? You know...where neighbours grass on neighbours?
Get over your jealousy OP. So what if she is screwing the system...we all do it...or would if we thought we could get away with it.

dorie · 09/09/2010 22:00

Oh well in that case it won't make the slightest difference to the country or our pockets if everyone in the UK gives up work then?

Just think if we were all on benefits and committing benefit fraud we would all be better off than we are now!

Also if we all give up work there will be no need for privately run banks. That will no doubt be the solution to the UK's debt problem. Goodnight and goodbye you fucking morons!!

tethersend · 09/09/2010 22:03

"Grrrrrrrr don?t start me please"

Ok Smile

MistsandMellowMilady · 09/09/2010 22:04

I'm being pedantic but there's nothing wrong or illegal about claiming DLA and working.

tethersend · 09/09/2010 22:05

"Goodnight and goodbye you fucking morons!!"

dorie, have you thought about becoming a politician? your debating skills are outstanding. Really. Mean it.

usualsuspect · 09/09/2010 22:05

OP got her shit storm then Grin

ShirleyKnot · 09/09/2010 22:15

Hahaha.

Yeah that's what I was saying, let's all give up work and cheat the benefit system.

STILL waiting for a response to the questions I have posed about the ways in which the government has got us into this mess....still waiting....

Lots of love,

Fucking moron number 3

fin54 · 09/09/2010 22:16

No your right, there is nothing wrong with claiming DLA and working, but claiming incapacity benefit and working for a builder on the quiet is WRONG, worse than that the builders wife is a barrister who knows her husband is also committing a crime by employing people on the dole.
Also know of a girl who has two children both at school, she is getting over a grand a month, housing benefit, and god knows what else, DOES IT ANNOY ME yes it bloody does annoy me, both my husband and I work shifts day and night to earn a decent wage to survive.

bluefinger · 09/09/2010 22:16

I don't think I could find the vitriol to report an actual friend tbh. Although you are probably better off reporting it now, I imagine if they catch up with them in the future they will be in deep shit.

I can't even claim hb properly without ending up owing the fuckers money tbh. I give them everything, bank statements, dp's payslips etc and still we end up owing the fuckers money. Our tax credits went up about £14 a week because of new tax year/baby. We reported this plus added payslips etc (they requested these) and our hb payments went from £70 a week to £41. Dp has recently had a pay rise because of being a team leader. although hasn't been paid for it yet Hmm. I'm pretty sure we will lose much more in tax credits/hb than the extra amount he will earn tbh. It's all fucked up I hate it.

My life ambition atm is to earn enough not to qualify for goddam hb.

I've never had a problem with tax credits its just hb and ctb.

Talk to your friend and assure her that they will catch up with her. It's not fun to have random reviews of benefits even when you are doing nothing wrong.

Want2bSupermum · 09/09/2010 22:24

Going through the list of my friends who live in England I can't think of one who has been honest regarding their benefits. Very few of my friends who have children are married when they have the child but get married once the youngest kid is in school and after they have bought their house from the local authority.

The reality is that children are very expensive to raise and today each household needs two incomes to keep their heads above water. From what I can tell, in many cases the second income has come from the government, not from the mother working.

Rather than report someone for benefit fraud I think it is far better to challenge politicians to improve the tax and benefit system.

sheepgomeep · 09/09/2010 22:28

I work and claim DLA for ds, all legal and above board.

tethersend · 09/09/2010 22:34

Can I be fucking moron number 1?

I never win anything. And my TV's shit.

burgerandchipswithredsauce · 09/09/2010 22:54

Thank you for the more sensible posts guys! I have decided to report my friend as she is now pissing me off bragging how she gets up to see the kids off to school and then goes back to bed. She doesn't need to give them breakfast because they have breakfast club free!

Also she is booking a cruise for herself, her partner and her kids for next month. A Cruise?? We'll be lucky if we go to Butlins this year and we work 24/7 between us!

Nope! It has to be done! I will be at the Social Security office first thing tomorrow morning and I do not even want to report her anonimously. I have blatently told her many times that I do not agree with her benefit and illegal lifestyle!

OP posts:
tethersend · 09/09/2010 22:58

Well, it's good to know your reasons for reporting her are rooted in your concern for society and not in petty spiteful jealousy Smile

hairytriangle · 09/09/2010 22:59

You sound as jealous as hell op

burgerandchipswithredsauce · 09/09/2010 23:01

Whatever Tethersend! Your time will come without a doubt - and I for one can't fucking wait!!!!

The more parasites that are reported the better chance the taxpayer will have of reducing his/her taxes.

OP posts:
tethersend · 09/09/2010 23:02
Grin

My time will come?

Is my time now?

tethersend · 09/09/2010 23:02

Time for what dare I ask?

Is it now?

tethersend · 09/09/2010 23:03

How about now?

BeerTricksPotter · 09/09/2010 23:10

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