to hide the feminism topic?

[CerealOffender]

the thread titles are all so serious and worthy and make me feel frivolous and unsisterly.

Actually TSH the paragraph you have helpfully cut and pasted of my views from another thread is all my own words. That is just what I happen to think after 36 years of being female and about 20 of them being a feminist and a bit of a bookworm.

LOL - I held those sorts of views before the www even existed! Don't worry I'm not the victim of any dogma or organisation.

TSH you have cut and pasted from an MRA website which expresses its hatred of feminists - you may not think that is inflammatory thing to do in a feminist forum, but I do.

'
You said - """"Many women choose to believe the 'boys will be boys, it's all just harmless fun, you're a jealous prude if you disagree, happy hooker, rape myths, men are visual, men have needs, women like it really, free choice' propaganda because it is easier that way. '

What if they genuinely feel that way. For instance I like watching men strip, masturbate on video, them in porn they make, live on webcam etc. I dont think I am doing anything wrong. I know I am visual and I have needs. I dont think men are objects, disrespect them or see them as less of a person thats why I dont think most of them do when they do it the other way round. I dont think I have been affected by propaganda because I know what I like, what turns me on etc.

I have to go out so not ignoring anyone.

TSH, I didn't really understand what you meant by your question.

"Do others posters deserve to have this meted out on them?"

If you mean being called MRAs or antifeminist because they quote from antifeminist MRA websites - well that seems fair enough to me really.

As to being inflammatory I think we are talking about a slightly different thing.

I think it is inflammatory to post MRA stuff in dedicated feminist section. I have a problem with the inflammatory nature of the action not so much the content.

I wouldn't go on the spirituality section of MN and quote from websites who think people of faith are deluded and dangerous. I might bring up such content in a more general section of MN however.

This is called respecting the topic.

' You're a brave woman.. wink'

Haha well I dont care. Its how I feel and its what I enjoy. I cant stand it when people blindly say the whole sex industry is wrong. Yeah some is wrong and noone should be coerced or made to do something they dont want to but who has the right to tell me what I do or dont like or that I am wrong. Things arent that black and white people like different things. If you want to be a pole dancer go for it etc. I think if you do blindly say the sex industry is wrong without thinking that people enjoy different things then you are insecure. If someone said I object to parts of it where people are coerced but if you want to do it fine but its not what I choose then fair enough.

Otherwise then you are being irrational. Sex is a base instinct and people like different things. If its not your bag then dont be apart of it. Even women make porn nowadays for women. If you are blindly saying all porn is wrong then how can porn made by women, starring women viewed by women be wrong? Might as well just blame the patriachy yeah?

I hid it weeks ago but it keeps coming back to haunt me when I use my phone??

The MN feminist topic has convinced me that I'm not a feminist. Which is odd because I always thought I was It seems to me that to be a feminist you can't critisise women, or stand up for men, or expect both sexes to take equal responsibility.

I always thought that feminism was about making both sexes equal. Ironing out the wrinkles that reduce opportunities for men and women to live equal lives. IMO feminism doesn't work unless you get men on board too.

Well according to that I am a radical feminist. Well who'd have thought it

My favourite 'feminist' book is Woman on the Edge of Time which depicts a future in which both sexes have made sacrifices to become totally equal. It sounds like utopia to me.

Sunny we obviously have pretty different views on porn and so on. I think what I do and have reasons for thinking that - just as you do. We could no doubt have a very interesting discussion about our opposing views. Perhaps another time? Threads discussing views on porn do tend to get quite heated though!

TSH we are going round in circles I think - I think Lenin is right about taking it up with the person at the time.

I just thought it was kind of unfair of you to make out that another poster has called you an MRA/antifeminist because you have opposing views when what really happened was she calls you this because you have repeatedly cut and pasted from MRA/antifeminist websites on feminist threads.

Just as I thought it was unfair of you to pretend that at the beginning of the feminist section there was an agreement made to ignore other MNers with opposing views when what really happened was a discussion (of which Justine was party to) about the possibility of a feminist section attracting trolls from outside MN.

I've hidden it as well, because the aforementioned group who run the show.

Like Orm, I have always considered myself a feminist and came up as a "radical feminist" on that quiz.

But, when hanging around the Fem. topic I get the distinct feeling that unless you prescribe to x, y and z views, you aren't. Which is a bit bollocks to be honest. my version of feminism is obviously more huggy hippy "let's all try to get along and help each other out" then the MN Fem. view.

I mean, I got called "unsisterly" (actually in chat, not in the feminism section) for thinking that Liz Jones is a douchebag. surely women are allowed to not get on with other women? Just as equally we're not allowed to get on with some men? For the record, I also think that Jeremy Clarkson is a douchebag.

'my version of feminism is obviously more huggy hippy "let's all try to get along and help each other out"'

Well, that's you, me (ecofem and liberal/equality type woolliness, plus mother of a DS as well as a DD)
and OrmRenewed.
Perhaps a new offshoot?