in not having crisps in the house?

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friends ds's age 7 and 10
their dad drops them off
asks if I would "throw a packet of crisps at them as they are starving"
I agree thinking to myself -haven't got crisps but will find summat

the kids are horrified that we have no crisps

I ask them what they would have as a snack if they didn't have crisps at home
they looked shocked and said a cornetto but they ALWAYS have crisps

WTF

said no to fruit / crackers / toast (becasue it was brown bread ffs)

ended up finding some white bread -praise the lord

nelson, i would be narked too. i had two older brothers and they would have hated it if they weren't allowed to have ..... pizza, infront of the tv, watching james bond. followed by a .... wagon wheel. (do you remember when they were really huge, fat, thick, chocolately and fab - not like the tiny skinny thing you get these days).
Just becasue they had a diabetic younger sister, why should they suffer.
I never suffered either, actually. I was always allowed a tiny bit of everything. never denied. i think that helped me.

I can still gorge for england though. you would be truely shocked how much i can eat in one sitting.

lol, I didn't mean we would literally eat the whole multipack straight away! we aren't quite that bad :o

but fair point about not being able to keep them in the house and that not being a good message... that's food for thought (arf) I don't think it's quite like that here.

I guess what I mean is that if we had them in the house, I would certainly eat a packet a day, just because they were there. But I don't love them enough to actually 'need' a pack a day IYSWIM, I only really crave them say once a week so that's when I'd get them at the shop. More when it's period week though

God bloody thanks-a-blowoff Fellatio, now I really REALLY want a lemon curd sandwich on white bread.

Nah, I don't think you need to have them in the house either, in order to maintain a healthy relationship with them (iyswim) - make them no big deal, have them occasionally, but I don't see crisps, chocolate etc really as part of normal daily diet, so it just doesn't occur to me to buy them to "have them in" - if we want them, we go to the shop.

Oblomov I never have that kind of crap food in the house. I have had food ishoos in the past and let's just say, it would not be a healthy choice. I bake cakes etc because I prefer home made to shop bought.

I'll be open and honest in true MN spirit and admit that I JUDGE people who buy crisps in multipacks. Don't give me your I-have-4-teenagers excuses. You all know that your entire families live on crisp and tomato sauce sandwiches with white bread and margarine in my head.

Provincial, you judge people who buy multipacks ? You do ? oh. right.
Yet you say you have had ishoos in the past. do you think I have food ishoos ? Because i don't. but maybe i'm just in denial. and you could enlighten me ?
and no, i don't think its crap. i don't see any foodstuff as crap. its only if you lived off poor quality food , nothing but chicken supernoodles. only. then your diet would be very very poor.

but i believe that I eat a more than reasonable diet. I never worry about food. I eat what i want, when i want. my kids eat every food i can think of. ds2 not keen on egg sandwiches. ds1 not keen on lettuce and cucumber. other thna than every veg, fruit, curry, chilli, every food stuff i can think of.
and that includes a bisuit here and there. a bit of chocolate. loads of fruit and veg and pasta and bread.

how can you describe this as crap ?
no food is crap. unless its part of a total diet of limited options.

Let me ask the same question in a different way.
Being diagnosed as a diabetic at aged 1, my whole life I have lived a high fibre, low fat diet. with loads of fruit and veg. but my mum discussed with the consultant, saying that she did not want to deny me any food. to prevent rebellion and resentment at my diabetes. also, what about the 4 other memebers of the family ? thus it was agreed, ( this was quite forward-thinking, in the 70's) that all foods would be incorporated into my diet. so everytime my mum made a baked alaska, i had a small bit. everytime my 2 older brothers had a wagon wheel, i had a bit.
i was denied nothing. i see no food as a treat. no food as harmful. or good. or bad. or otherwise.
I have managed my diabetes for 30 years and think thta i have an incredibly good relationship with food.
Plus, rememebr that I am weighed and have my hb1ac taken and colestrol tests, etc every 3 months, every 3 months of my whole life. I have weighed roughly the same ( minus 2 pregnancies), for nearly the last 20 years.
I think that in these days of diets, and children not eating anything but .... I think quite a few pewople would also benefit from the view of food that has been given to me.

What do you think ?
Provincial ?

I agree Oblomov. We don't have "good" or "bad" foods - we have a varied and balanced diet and we have chocolate and crisps as part of that. I have a multi pack of crisps in my cupboard and they have been sitting there unopened for three weeks. Not because I have banned consumption but the family just fancy fruit or ricecakes or whatever instead.

I don't do 'good' or 'bad' foods either. I don't let my kids have lots of crips/sweets but I don't want them having the food issues that I had. I only wanted the things that I wasn't 'allowed' when I was a kid. Oblomov, I'm so encouraged reading your post, DD is type 1 diabetic and I try to keep her diet as varied and 'normal' as possible and fingers crossed it seems to be working for us.

Sorry, I posted and then went shoe shopping! (It was grim)

I think you may have taken me rather more seriously than I intended. Sorry I didn't manage to sound light hearted.

Crisps or the lack of had nothing to do with my anorexia - it was caused by an abusive childhood. I think that the vast majority of eating disorders are caused by abuse/dysfuctional families, rather than by parents not letting their children eat sweets, crisps etc. FWIW my DH was brought up in a family where no junk was allowed..not even white flour..and he has a great attitude towards food.

I don't have crisps in the house because my children are too young IMO (4 and 1) and they need their calories to be good, nutritious ones, not empty ones in the form of simple carbohydrate, fat and salt. Crisps are one of the least nutritious things I can think of.

I don't really judge everyone who buys multipacks of crisps - not much anyway - but I do despair of the way we feed our children and our general attitudes to food in this country. Every packed lunch has to have a packet of crisps and a chocolate biscuit it seems, and whilst there is nothing wrong with crisps etc as a treat, that is not how most people in this country use them. Hence the OP.

Megatron, I saw you on that awful diabetic thread the other day. I had to hide it in the end becsue the OP was so rude and never aknowledged me or any of the other nice people that were offering support.
But back to you and your dd. I am very pleased to read what you have just written. And I wish you and your diabetic dd, all the very very best.

Provincial, i'll let you off the hook. just an inch, then !!
have you been on MN long provincil ? i would guess not. only that over the years, i have seen loads of threads on eating. lunchboxes. and actually schools don't allow most of the things you list.
and i have had many a giggle to myself over soemof them. let me think. i'm sure thre was one where the school insisted something liek no tuna on rye, or soemthing. and then when all the nutrition was compared, it was concluded that theres nothing wrong with a banana , a cheese sandwich on broewn and a packet of crsips.
or something along those lines. you get the drift.
i still don't think crisps are that bad actually. as part of a balanced diet, they are fine. not every day, not this, not that, but ....
my 2 ds's (6 and nearly 2)are currently having a brown bread sandwich and sharing a packet of crisps. with a drink of water. late lunch.

AND not all food needs to be nutritional. What about FUN ?
what about drinking a glass of wine. what about licking the cake bowl. what about making chocolate ricecrispies with your kids. even ds2 likes that and he's less than 2 years old.

Not long Oblomov...only about 5 years My boys don't go to school yet (obviously) so I am talking about their peers who attend nursery. It seems that lots of schools still do allow crisps etc - DH is a primary schol teacher and his current and last schools both did at lunch time but not at break. Not sure why. I agree with you about a healthy diet being a balanced one, with treats allowed. Of course I drink wine and my DC love to help cook cakes and flapjacks etc too. But I would not let DS2 (18m) eat crisps. He still eats so little of anything that it would be a bad move IMO. He needs to eat high calorie AND high nutritional value food. DS1 has eaten crisps of course, at parties etc, but actually he prefers sweet treats like his mother! Most of the time his treats are fruit based and that makes more sense to me than encouraging him to swap that for crisps.

Thank you Oblomov.

I love crisps. They are one of my favourite things EVER.
I could live off dietcoke and cheese and onion crisps, if i had to.
I love savoury stodge most of all. sausages and mash. spag bol. spaghetti and meatballs.

God I love food. All food. My mum took me to Hibiscus, the 2* michelin french restaurant in Myafair. as a big treat. We had the £75 tasting menu for lunch. It was divine.
I love food, food shopping, food prep, cooking, but mostly EATING. God I LOVE eating.
I think you get the picture

oblamov

yes we love costco - all sorts of tempting goodies

step away from the vats of cinnamon rolls

sorry Oblomov

They sell vats of cinnamon rolls? Must find a way to go there!